12.12.17

3653) What Do Armenians Think Of Turkish People?


Enrique Sanchez, Teacher at Tutors
I have lived in Glendale, California for about 8 years and from what I have seen is that 98% of Armenians have nothing but pure hatred towards Turkey and Turkish people as a whole it doesn't matter to them if it was the government that did the “So Called” genocide of 1915.

All I hear is complaining and whining about the Turks did this and the Turks did that etc etc etc.

Why are they complaining? They are one of the most successful people in the United States I don't see them struggling or trying to make ends meet. They live better than most Americans and to add the least assimilated white group in the country.

They claim to be the first Christian nation but their lifestyle is far from what a Christian is supposed be like.

The Armenians drink, they smoke, they gamble, they think they are better than others and shove into people's faces that they have money, they cheat on their spouses and they have bad manners and lack etiquette. They worship their culture and they are very insular and don't welcome outsiders into their group

The Armenians need to group up and move on whatever happen happened they shouldn't blame an entire people from what a few bad apples did more than a 100 years ago.

They should follow what Christ told his disciples Love for Enemies

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:43–48.


Alvin Hovasapian, Lived in Altona, Hamburg
I grew up in Altona, Hamburg. As an elementary school student, some of my closest friends were Turkish. As fellow 'ouslanders' we had a sort of bond together than transcended any historical considerations. 

Now that I'm older, I still have Turkish friends, just like I have friends of other nationalities. I perceive people to be individuals and do not attribute to them any preconceived notions of race or nationality. I certainly don't believe in a 'sins of the father' notion.

Sure, there are some Turkish individuals who deny the Armenian Genocide. There are also people who think the Earth is flat and that the Earth is in the center of the universe. Honestly, I don't think these individuals are worth my time.

Of course, my issue is with the Turkish government. Even a simple 'we regret what happened. It was terrible, but none of us currently alive had any part in it" would go a long way for me. Having said that, I was in Istanbul a few months ago for a wedding. It's a great country, with many great people and great food. And honestly, many Turkish people I met had no love for the current Turkish government. And frankly I would never let some asshole government influence me enough to hate anyone.

Lilit Petrosyan, works at PicsArt Photo Studio
Wars and Genocides and hatred is about governments and not people. At least this is what my position is. So I think about Turks as I would think about any other nation and I am really sorry that in 21th century, we still have barriers and limits in interaction between us and neighboring countries. We have much to give and to receive and we just waste time by not being more open (we I mean both countries).

Harut Martirosyan, Armenian born/raised/living in Armenia
I am Armenian living in Armenia.
Evidently, we have BIG problem with Turkey, with their government, but NOT with the people.

Although, I'm personally OK with Turkish people, older generation (65+) may think different in some cases.

Vahe Shelunts, Intern at US Embassy Yerevan (2017-present)
As an Armenian, I have had chance to talk to many Turkish people. Most of them were quite nice and friendly. I became friends with some of them and we still communicate with each other. However, there are also the ones who are arrogant and prejudiced towards Armenians. But people are different. Noticeably, the Turks with whom I communicated always tried to avoid the topic of Genocide.

Having lived in Yerevan for 10 years, I can definitely say that in general there is no hate towards Turks here. Most people are quite friendly to them and even visit Turkey. But of course, there are always some people with radical views just like in any other country.

However, I have seen the negative trend towards improvement of Armenian-Turkish relationships, primarily caused by racist remarks against Armenians .

Sako Gekchyan, studied at High School Education
I am Armenian and I'm overall very easy-going with Turks. I've hung out with a group of turkeys students at my college. Even though I'm still infuriated about the events of 1915, my hostility is towards the Turkish government, not the Turkish people. As long as they show me kindness and respect they will get the same from me.. .

Ozgur Demir
I am a Turkish citizen and I lived in Los Angeles for about 4 years. Actually, I lived very close to Glendale that known as home to huge Armenian population.

During my residency in Los Angeles, I had interacted with lots of Armenian people. I shopped from their stores, I ate from their restaurants, I chatted with them.

Even though, Armenian diaspora is known as more radical than the people in Armenia, the number of negative approach from them was limited to only 2 or 3 times. Other than that, I can say, Armenian people is not much different that Turkish people in most aspects and they are mostly kind and easygoing, even after they learn that you are Turkish.

Anonymous
Some hate Turkish people, others have no problem with them.

I go to a high-school in Burbank where the majority of students are Armenian-American and from what I've observed, some of the Armenian students are scarred by the events that occurred in 1915 and post gruesome pictures of Turkish children dying with the caption “They deserved it.” I am not Armenian and I don't consider myself racist, but posts such as those enrage me because it portrays all Armenians as hateful. There are many Armenians at school who distinguish the Turks who committed the atrocities of the Armenian from the Turkish people of today.

I believe that their viewpoints toward the Turkish people depends on how deeply they were affected by the Armenian genocide and what they have been raised to believe.

Electra K. Vasileiadou, works at Freelance Photographers
I am not Armenian but most of my Armenian friends and acquaintances are not terribly fond of Turks. Some see things differently but they are a small minority (as far as my social circle goes, off course)
I wouldn't want to misrepresent any of their views so I will not go into details regarding the position of either group.

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3652) Book Review: Armenian genocide (and if they had lied to us): Reflections on the Turkish-Armenian tragedy by Yves Bénard


Book Review: Armenian Genocide (And if They Had Lied To Us): Reflections on the Turkish-Armenian Tragedy
by Yves Bénard

The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, June 28th 1914, caused a great stir. In less than a month, Europe and Japan entered the war. Turkey is assailed by the Russians, the Armenian deserters, the British, the French, the Greeks, the Italians and the Australians.

All the Turks were drafted. Only the elderly, the women and children, remained in towns and villages. The Armenian militias had been waiting for this moment to implement their "extermination" plan aiming to obtain the "Great Armenia". Driven by a murderous frenzy, they indulged in barbarous acts of indescribable cruelty, over 500,000 victims were raped, disembowelled, crucified, slaughtered, mutilated, burned or buried, and the villages burned.

The author brings to light this dark page of the Turkish-Armenian tragedy with documents that bring a completely new and unexpected look on the Turkish-Armenian affair.

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7.12.17

3651) Morgenthau Shenanigans by Y Atun, S Aya, A Atun

Abstract

The Armenian assertions related to the migration of Armenians living in eastern Anatolia amid the start of First World War, is mainly based on the book titled “Ambassador Morgenthau's Story” written by purported Mr. Henry Morgenthau Sr. The ambassador of USA to Istanbul. In reality, the book was written, edited and composed by Mr. Burton J. Hendricks, the famous journalist, winner of the Pulitzer Prize of the period. He is the unveiled writer behind the curtains. He is the professional writer of this indecisive book and recompensed with an extremely immense lump sum of money from Mr. Morgenthau for his extremely proficient, dedicated and insatiable office. The truth of the matter is that Ambassador Morgenthau administered as a US Ambassador in Istanbul from late November 1913 to early February mid 1916, however never voyaged eastwards even up to Iznikomid (Izmit of today), which situated a mere 90 km east of Kalkedon (Kadiköy of today). His book is completely in light of hearings and cosmetics stories made by the two Armenian US Embassy representatives. No data in this book depends on any official report issued by any neighboring nation to the Ottoman Empire or even the US Senate or Congress. At the point when this book is checked against Mr. Morgenthau's Diary, it can be unmistakably seen by anyone that it incorporates made up stories as opposed to mirroring the genuine events, incidents, recollections and memories. This paper, in view of data excerpted from the non-Turkish or non-Ottoman archives and documents as well as official discharges, tries the bring into life what happened really amid this period and the contradictions between the book titled “Ambassador Morgenthau's Story” and his diary.

Keywords: Morgenthau, Diary, Armenian, Book, Ottoman . . .

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