2902) Can We Sue Turkey : Interesting Discussion

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xcelr8Armo
08-17-2008, 04:04 AM
I heard Armenia can sue turkey for the genocide, if so why dont we?

We have enough evidence and if we win we could get a lot of money and land
ArmSurvival
08-18-2008, 12:49 PM
Don't hold your breath. Even if we could start a suit against Turkey, which court would it be conducted in? For the sake of argument lets say its in a neutral court like The Hague (which probably won't happen, but lets just say). We have had all the evidence for decades now, and even if the court rules in our favor, does the international community have the leverage and motivation to compel Turkey to "give" us money and land? Probably not. The U.S. invasion of Iraq is a clear example that the international community is in no position to tell the U.S. or any of its allies what they must or must not do.

Armenians shouldn't get complacent with this legal mumbo-jumbo, or rely on the international community to save our country. The only way we will ever restore our land from Turkey is if the geopolitical situation favors an attack on them and if Armenians carry out the actual "dirty work" in a military conflict. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or is very naive.

Its important to stress that "legality" depends on who holds power. . .
Yedtarts
08-18-2008, 04:44 PM
a neutral court like The Hague

:laugh::laugh: a good one! :laugh::laugh:
ArmSurvival
08-18-2008, 06:03 PM
Neutral in theory, and for the sake of argument.

Its non-neutrality just further proves my point that the international community can't do sh*t against U.S. interests.
PepsiAddict
08-19-2008, 05:42 AM
I heard Armenia can sue turkey for the genocide, if so why dont we?

We have enough evidence and if we win we could get a lot of money and land

If Armenia could sue them dont you think they would do it a long time ago?
Anoush
08-19-2008, 02:38 PM
First we want to see America legally accepting the Genocide, then things could happen for us. Turkey must remunerate for our losses, our buildings and our lands by giving us our thousands of years' lands back. That should be the price of the renumeration. We want our lands back. Including Naxichevan.
ara87
08-20-2008, 09:15 PM
the only way to get it back is for Armenians to mate like rabbits and over populate Armenia, and the surrounding areas, the world is never going to give and underpopulated country more land so their minuscule population can not live there.
Yedtarts
08-20-2008, 09:35 PM
Armenians to mate like rabbits and over populate Armenia
Can gays do this?
ara87
08-20-2008, 11:22 PM
Can gays do this?

yes,especially easy for the lesbians, it's called artificial insemination, as for gay men they can pay women to have their kids or adopt a bunch of non Armenians kids and raising them armenian, thus increasing the numbers of armenians
Kanki
08-20-2008, 11:26 PM
What an interesting topic!

I was born in 1989 and I can't be responsible for genocide and my family are also too.

and Turks have been living Anatolia for about 1000 years(very before 1776) and it is very hard to change.
xcelr8Armo
08-21-2008, 01:46 AM
dont worry.

your a turk thats good enough
numerodos
08-21-2008, 06:49 AM
Intelligent and well presented argument by xcelr8. Your wisdom knows no boundaries. In fact I'm not worthy to even gaze upon your words, so I better leave before I feel even more inferior.
Yedtarts
08-21-2008, 06:40 PM
yes,especially easy for the lesbians, it's called artificial insemination, as for gay men they can pay women to have their kids or adopt a bunch of non Armenians kids and raising them armenian, thus increasing the numbers of armenians

What a beautiful society that would be, it’s like building the biblical tower of Babylon. No thank you! I don’t think we need such a nation; I am thinking to bring my kids there to raise them with Armenian and moral traditions not with Babylonian morals and traditions.
ara87
08-21-2008, 09:31 PM
What a beautiful society that would be, it’s like building the biblical tower of Babylon. No thank you! I don’t think we need such a nation; I am thinking to bring my kids there to raise them with Armenian and moral traditions not with Babylonian morals and traditions.

it wouldn't be like building babylon because 1 that story is a parable. 2 we wouldn't be sitting in one location, we'd spread out. 3 You could still raise the kids armenian. 4 take you kids for the summers then but don't deprive them by making them live there, if you gonna move away from the evil western babylonian traditions at least move to greece or something, somewhere not as poor, not in ongoing conflict, and also prettier, & pretty much same values as armenians
Crimson Glow
09-20-2008, 02:07 PM
What an interesting topic!

and Turks have been living Anatolia for about 1000 years(very before 1776) and it is very hard to change.

It can't be THAT hard. After all, the Turks somehow managed to find a way to get rid of all the Armenians that had been living there for over 3,000 years.
SoyElTurco
10-22-2008, 02:24 PM
The only way we will ever restore our land from Turkey is if the geopolitical situation favors an attack on them and if Armenians carry out the actual "dirty work" in a military conflict.

Dirty work? Would you guys really reciprocate? Would you really want to fall that low? If you did chose to do that, then it would throw out all of the grievances you've ever had. It would completely destroy any claims you have.

Would you people really be down to do that?
ARGENTINA
10-22-2008, 07:45 PM
Republic of turkey till now had more than two states in one land,one is official and the other ones was the unofficial underground versions. Recently T.Erdogans AKP political ruling party somehow awakened from the three presumably independent political occult acts gave the trigger action to start dismantling the mafia-military-intellectual made unofficial terror underground state "ERGENEKON"which has a lots to tell for the plots against armenians and kurds from the beginning of the century till now. To clean this garbage will cost a lot for AKP but I personally I want to congratulate Erdogans for courage and the stability .
ArmSurvival
10-22-2008, 08:16 PM
Dirty work? Would you guys really reciprocate? Would you really want to fall that low? If you did chose to do that, then it would throw out all of the grievances you've ever had. It would completely destroy any claims you have.

Would you people really be down to do that?


I didn't say anywhere that unarmed civilians should be wiped out. "Dirty work" implies fighting in a war. Its dirty no matter how you look at it.
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