30 October 2010

3161) Who Are Armenians? / Political Role of Church & Armenian Programme/ Caucasus: Free E-Book by Vasily Lvovich Velichko (1860 — 1903)

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  1. Who Are Armenians by V L Velichko*(1860—1903)
  2. Political Role of Church & Armenian Programme by Velichko
  3. Velichko's Free E-Book "Caucasus" . .

Who are Armenians?

Their authentic origin is not definite yet. Historical datas show their unification with jews during Vavilonian Captivity, and also after Jerusalem had been ruined. From the anthropological point of view, in majority, they are brahicefals, i.e. short-headed, so, they are very similar to mountainous Jews (dagli cuut) and siro-haldeys (i.e. Aysors); all these are according to Schantre, Erkert, Pantyukhov’s research.

English scientist Bertin considers them as people of the same type with jews of prepalestinian period. Professor D.N.Anuchin writes, that Armenians are- tribe not Arian, but Arianized (by language). Moreover, absolutely not all those, who consider themselves as Armenians, belong to aboriginal Armenian population.
. . In the end of 90es of XIX century, Armenian magazine “Moorch”*, talking about Armenians’ significant capability for assimilation of another nations, points out the fact of presence between them of big percentage of assimilarized gitanes. To the much more interesting conclusion, concerning big Armenian groups, came Caucasian anthropologist I.I.Pantyukhov, who used the opportunity, when Tiflis was full with semiwild refugees from Turkey, and submitted many Turkish Armenians to anthropological analysis.

He recovered, that most of those refugees, by their physical characteristics,- are pure kurds. This creates area to suppose, that some epizodes of Armenian slaughter in Turkey are the results of longstanding counts between Kurdish tribes of different confession

The question, concerning Caucasian Albania, or in Armenian- Agvania, is also extremely interesting. This was the kingdom, which included modern Elizavetpole province (Ganja), parts of Tiflis and Dagistan, populated by nationalities of non-Armenian origin, but who received Christian confession from Armenians. Until the beginning of XIX century autonomous aAgvanian or Gindzasarian Cathalicos was existing , he was competing with Echmiadzinian one all the time and was completely autonomous from him. At presence, Christians, which were the pasture of Agvanian Cathalicos, are considered as Armenians, and being mixed with them, accepted their character.

Armenians also came through violent mixes with other nationalities: Armenian tribe has contributions in its genealogical structure from Persian troops, Azeri Turks, Turks, Georgians, representatives of mountainous nations.

In such circumstances, it is clear, that pure Armenian without any mixes in his blood is of the great rarity. They have lots of mixes from other nations in their blood, by this fact we can explain- how nation, which cowardice had become a refrain in Asia, can sometimes bear talented and brave commanders- they are big exclusion from whole nation, because of contributions in their blood from other brave and bellicose nations; therefore, normal, pure Armenian, according to caucasian refrain, “is affraid from hare”.

This feature is undoubtly semitic. In general, Armenians have lots of semitic features, which are as follows: historical incapability to preserve stable state organization, disappearance of aristocracy, and transition to underground policy of theocratic regime; until nowadays sharp features of collectivism in usage of cultivate lands are seen in peasantry, also significant inclination to trade, userery, etc. Arrogance and cruelty towards weak and slave grovel in front of stronger power, and phenomenal capability for advertisement, and insatiable vanity- all these are semitic features, but in Armenian character they are much rough and intensive.

Armenians extremely dislike, if they are compared with Jews, and always try to insist on Arian origin of gaykan nation.

Armenian businessmen intensively care about creation of very special history of Armenia, about exalt of this small nation and its heroes, starting from casual generals, worthy of respect, and terminating with uncasual contrabandists, worthy of... respect, but from another side. They always try to stress their historical “merits” and present dignities in parazitic way, i.e. depriving neighboring nations, who have history much more clear, undoubt and valueble. They rob Georgians in historical- archeological field: for example, they scratch Georgian inscriptions from monuments, seize ancient orthodoxal chapels** and try to demonstrate as ancient Armenian lands places, where everything is witnessing about past of Georgian kingdom.

The first mercenary of Armenians in Russian literature was Senkovskiy, who was writing in such mood under pseudoname of baron Brambeus. Then Armenian “historians”- Emin (“The History of Moisey Horenskiy”), Hudobashev (Review of Armenia), later- Yeritsov (Caucasian Olden Times, 1872, #1), -despite such obvious witnesses of past, as monuments, worked in the same direction; they, for instance, try to rob Georgia its historical rights to Saatabago region, i.e. atabeck Jakeli’s possessions (at presence, Ahalcih district). Every caucasian knows, that undoubt traces of Tamara the Great’s reign found in this region, and muslim population of the district cosists of turkisized georgians, speaking georgian, but Armenians came there in the 1st half of XIX century as refugees from Turkey, and they are not aborigins there.

Such scientists as Patkanov, Senkovskiy, Koh, Marr always try to rob georgians of their historical property in order to benefit Armenians and still try to prove, that marvelous georgian poem “Bars skin” (obviously, author is talking about Shota Roustaveli’s poem “Knight in Tiger Leather”, notice of edition) is not authentically georgian.

All this is beneficial for Armenian politicians, because their nation never ever have had any significant poetic work, i.e. necessary feature of flowerishing of nation’s spirit.

Armenians’ morbid ambitions and vanity, inclination to advertisement of own “grandeur” in the past and presence can been expalined and partly justified by such fact, that they during their history acquired negative reputation for themselves, and want to get rid of it.

Impartial, humanistic and moralistic roman historian Tacitus speaks about Armenians in 2nd book of Ab excessu Augusti, in the paragraph 53, he says the following: “They are really double-faced nation, either by character and by geographical condition...; Permanently hate romans and envy to perphenians”. In the book 12, paragraph 46 he points to “enough known perfidy of Armenians” –“satis cognitam Armeniorum perfidam”.

“You are coward, you are slave – you are Armenian!” – says Pushkin in the old man’s retort. Georgians say: “movida somehi-moytana skhva mehi” – Armenian came and brought new disaster.

German traveller Alfred Kerte in his “Anatolian sketches”, which were dedicated to well-known German representative in Turkey Colemar fon-der-Goltz, say the following : “approximately everybody, who touches the local culture in these provinces, learns to love Turks, do not respect Greeks, hate and despise Armenians... Everywhere the proverb- “greek will deceive two Jews, Armenian- two Greeks”-justifies. If you were deceived somewhere in Anatolia, so, surely, you dealt with Armenian. The same author quote one businessman from Eski-Sheher: “when I deal with turk, concerning business, I do it without written contract, because his word is enough. With Greek or other levantinian I make written contact, because it is absolutely unavoidable and optional, but with Armenians I do not have any business, because it is impossible to avoid their mendacity and intrigue even within written conditions”.

That is to say, intelligent Armenians longly realize, that reputation of their nation is extremely bad, so, among people, who don’t know Caucasus well, some of representatives of Armenian intellectuals call themselves as Georgians, or, for poetical feelings, chekesians. Up to present, Armenians themselves and publicists, who sympathize them, always try to substitute “Armenian” with “aborigin”, “Caucasian”, and especially “Christian”. Such a stress on Christianity is very characteristical, because of their permanent claims towards their Muslim neighbors, and because title “Christian” gives them some privilege.

Written Armenian History is very unclear, unexact, but it has many edifying points -in chroniclers’ tremendous unceremounisity as well as in facts. Beginning from cathalicos Johann VI (“The History of Armenia from the begining of time until the year 925”, Sent-Martin’s interpretation) and till later period, Armenian historians are pretending to accuracy in datas, which concern most fabulous period of history. Armenians, allegedly, derive from Noah. According to Armenian archbishop Joseph, Armenians’ genealogy is as follow: Noah born Afet, Afet born Gomer, Gomer born Tiras, Tiras born Torkom, Torkom born Gayk, who together with Nemvrod provided Vavilonian crowd. Later, Gayk won Nemvrod in a war and killed him. Because of it, tribes, which were submitted to Gayk, considered him as a father and began to title themselves as gaykans. Then, there is a number of such “true” and “proved” facts. Pages are full with “great” names, unknown in official historical science, besides the Armenian one, known figures sometimes appeare in very exaggerated form.

If it was necessary to find word to characterize facts from Armenian history, besides “fiction”, word “treason” should have been used. Dubious rulers of Armenia, country with permanently hesitative borders, are always dependent on stronger neighbour monarchies and systematically betray them. Nobelsmen (narahars) betray tsars, nations betray them both. Cruelty of customs and unreliance of interrelations are phenomenal.

In Armenia itself, i.e. on Armenian plato, sovereign state had been abolished long-long time ago, in V century, when Armenia became persian province and, factually, theocratical leadership with cathalicos in head came to existence over Armenian nation.

Some feature of sovereignty appeared in fall of XI century in small Kilikia and finally disappeared in 1375.

* “Moorch”, 1897, article “Armenians from Gitanes”.

“There are only two nations on Earth without national language and without homeland- jews and gitanes. Neither Asian tyranny, nor medieval ruthless chasing , nor even modern humanistic culture couldn’t assimilate them to other nations; and all these strong factors, therefore, were not able to abolish material greediness of one and unlimited aspiration to wander of another. Everywhere in Asia and in Europe, old and new world, gipsy remain gipsy, jew remain jew. Only Armenian nation could assimilate gitanes, and this is supported by facts. Erivanian, Shemahan, Elizavetpolian, Tiflisian and other gitanes assimilated to Armenians, and they maintained only their family names, as far memory about their origin. Researching data, we can come to conclusion, that no nation was capable to such mass assimilation besides Armenian one. There are even talented persons from assimilated gitanes-Armenians. For instance, professor of Saint-Peterburg University Kerobe Patkanyan, monk and poet Alamdaryan and others.

** There are many such facts. We’ll describe two of them. “Kafkaz”, June 1897, “Parishioners of St.Nicolas’s dushet church appointed two persons to intercede to Higher Caucasian Commander askingto take measures for prevention from capture by Armenians of “Bodavis-tsminda Georgis-nishi” chapel with its piece of land. Ancient icons are stollen and brought to dushet Armenian church, and chapel itself now called “Soorp-Geurkan”, orthodoxal priests are not allowed to messa in it.”

“Iveria”, April 1897, Ahalcih town. “There is curative spring near the town on opposite bench of Potskhovi river. Near spring there is old georgian chapel. From different parts of Georgia people come to the spring for cure. Water was available for free. In the begining of March 1896 somebody brought and put Armenian icons in chapel, made doors in chapel and locked them. Priest D.Hahutov acknowledged exzarkh of Georgia about this incident.”


V.L.Velichko: Political Role of Church and Armenian Programme



Undoubtedly, disadvantages of Armenian clerical organisation and fatal errors of Armenian church theocratic policy have pernicious sequences not only for Russian common and state affairs in the region, but for Armenian ethnos itself. Impossible not to mention that rise of Armenian manifestation and disobedience in Turkey and common nervousness of Armenians on Russian territory came to an existence at the time when His Holiness katalikos Mkrtich I became bishop of Echmiadzin.

During bishop's election part of Armenian bourgeoisie and pseudo-intelligent estate, united by "Mshak" newspaper, which was established by well-known Artsruni, remained as opponents of Mkrtich, in sake of bourgeois-liberal and liberal-atheistic thoughts. Now, many merchants, bankers, oil magnates, feeling disgust to clericalism, after familiarizing with European cafechantans and smoking, attitude towards their spiritual leader without any respect, but, having common goal of ethnic sovereignty, suggest, that the process may accelerate with help of so-called social-economic evolution. This disagreement is basically academic, than live, because both parties always come along, when they can unite in front of common enemy.

In Echmiadzin Armenian church rule is not uni-headed, but, according to the law, katalikos is the head of Sinod, prosecutor of which is appointed by Russian government. Echmiadzin Ecclesiastical Academy should have been governed by legal set of rules, because time of temporary rules, substituting them, expired long time ago. Finally, competence of Russian power in political issues or common criminal ones, naturally, was in force in Echmiadzin as well. Meanwhile, justified requires of government are not always fulfilled and often remain without response of provide unsuitable one. Oath of recruits and participators of court issues, by Senate's order, has to be given in Russian, but, involved in political affairs clergy forbid priests to do it.

Echmiadzin has vast estates, which governed extremely mysteriously. Equipment, lists of property, etc. are hidden there very well. Properties are sold and pawned. Church institutes also have big credits in banks. Within such economic chaos hard to define where expenses go - to church needs or somewhere else. There is fact that some years ago one gang of Russian money falsifiers sheltered in one of Echmiadzin abbeys.

Poor history of Armenian nation resulted with significant mix of spiritual aims of church with secular affairs. This makes damages to spiritual development of Armenian nation and moral prestige of katalikos and rest of clergy as well.

Secularization of Armenian church's property is very necessary mean in order to provide calmness among Armenian and, mainly, in order to give Armenian church opportunity to execute its holy mission, not disturbing with secular affairs. Their leaders escape Armenian people from the educational point of view, they are harmed and separated from Holy True and Virtue. Primarily and mainly, it is fault of Armenian highest clergy, which mainly consists on ordinary and ignorant peasants.

By organs of Ministry of education was revealed, that Armenian parish schools, is spite of ordinary people's aspiration to study official language, not only hamper this process of development of sense of citizenship, but also spread fanatism and rudeness. Absolutely absurd books, talking about Armenians to civilize their neighbours, maps of Great Armenia (where capital is in Tiflis, and state includes territories to Voroneje) are spreading in this schools.

Former curator on educational affairs in Caucasian district K.P. Yanovskiy gained decree about transmission of some schools under competence of Ministry of education, but with preserving Armenian language and Armenian religious dogma there. Armenian clergy didn't accept it and at the moment closed many schools preferring to keep people in the darkness of ignorance, but not let them to get rid of obscurantism. Council on education on Caucasus could shift a number of schools under its competence, where only secular education was given. Apparently school's property moved together with schools, i.e. sources of financing, equipment, which Armenian clergy couldn't hide or waste. That is to say, that this process was characterized with vast scandals in front of all Tiflis, where Council on education didn't find any support.

Concerning funds (unmovable property and capitals), which armenian schools were financed with, ruse and lie of local moneymakers brought education affairs in extremely hard situation- when primarily school property appeared under monastery and church labels.

Ordinary Armenian people ardently want to study Russian language, which can provide lots of opportunities to earn and to join real culture. Idea of establishing sovereign state on Russian territories, widely cultivated among pseudo-curators of Armenian people, doesn't seem to decline, but rise. There wasn't any territory in Turkey and it is artificially creating on Southern Caucasus.

Thousands of emigrants invade Russian territories, but Russian soldiers may not shot this "peaceful bands", because they let women and children in forward. There is nothing witnessing about Turkish atrocities; and Turkish government doesn't want to accept these people back. Most of these "refugees" refuse to accept Russian citizenship, and laziness and idleness, diseases and crimes of all kinds characterize all of them.

South Caucasian Armenians, behavior of which significantly tenderized during decades of living in Russia, consider arrive of Turkish Armenians as great disaster.

Armenian pseudo-politicians want to extirpate Muslim population on Caucasus, damaging their reputation in order to possess their lands. Government's inactivity in this issue causes nervousness and disobedience among Caucasian Muslims; resolving of affairs, concerning entire vast group of population, always have been put backward during many decades (by the way, there are no reasons for it). It isn't difficult to guess who is interested in such kind of situation. As a result, entire Muslim population of South Caucasus is already covered with Armenian net, despite, partially, Kutaisi district. Armenian millionaires, who are basis of Armenian industrial-political terror, bye vast territories of Georgian princes, Tatar agalars for very low price and capture public lands (this lands are totally populating by Turkish Armenians).

There is another anomaly concerning Caucasian Muslims, i.e. in many Southeastern Caucasian cities Muslims are prevailing part of population, but, nevertheless, they don't have equal with Armenians rights in municipal government, because Armenians are "Christians". Such kind of right restrictions have to derive from life conditions, but not be based on formal features. Exploiters, rebellions, pseudo-politicians, people of dangerous behaviour, as Armenians, should be restricted, but not Muslims, who aren't characterised by above-mentioned features. At the same time, giving Muslims wider rights is absolutely natural, moreover in the places, where Muslims comprise bigger and aboriginal part of population. Caucasian government were conscientiously aspirating for it, and during short time the situation was already resolved in desired mode, suddenly Armenian mass media, newspapers started to scream about panislamism; and central government, yielding them, canceled this distinguished process.

It is extremely characterising, that Armenian pseudo-politicians do not tolerate any positive reference or protection directed towards other, really aboriginal nations on Caucasus. One of the basic fears of Armenian pseudo-politicians is fear in front of publicity. Especially, they are indignant by statements like Armenian hegemony is pernicious for other Caucasian nations; then they scream about rousing of inter-ethnic animosity.

Huge capitals, in hands of people, politically ignorant, can state serious danger not only in complicate situations, but also at ordinary time. Being product not of hard work and knowledge, but of stupid occasional, illegal acquire, this capitals in ignorant and rude hands state social danger, a factor of bribery and debauch.

Delirium and lie of Armenian pseudo-politicians, probably, will remain deliriums, but economic and spiritual damage made by Armenian leaders on Caucasus is huge. These leaders are awful as demoralizers, as viruses of social corrupt, as parasites.


* Vasily Lvovich Velichko
- The famous Russian journalist, editor of the semi-official Kavkaz gazette and historian, who had lived in the Caucasus by the end of the XIX century and first years of the XX century and studied the rich culture and history of this region. As an editor of the ``Caucasus`` newspaper, published in Tbilisi, he had traveled all over the Caucasus, and learned local peoples` traditions and way of life.

His book titled Caucasus, Russian Affairs And Inter-tribal Problems includes several articles of historical-ethnographic contest, written by the famous journalist.

The book is published in 2005 and available for download/view online:

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29 October 2010

3160) US Embassy In Armenia: "No Such Thing" Ref: Armenian President Asked US Vice-President Biden Not To Recognize Genocide

Dialogue Between Vice President Biden and An Armenian Activist


Updated 30 Oct 2010 7.30pm GMT

The full text of the dialogue between Vice President Biden and Armenian activist is as follows;


Armenian Activist: “I’m Armenian, and I want to thank you for the work you did in the Senate. I have a question. I am very involved in the Armenian American community and as you know we’ve been…”

Biden: “I know.”

Armenian Activist: “… we’ve been very, very burned. I want to know what is the message that we should be giving to our community?”

Biden: “What you should be giving to your community is that we are not backing off. The Turks have to come to the realization of what the reality is. And what we got to do is, you know, this, the compromise that was going on and being worked at for a while… Tell them that it was the ArmenianPresident that called me and said ‘Look, do not force this issue now, while we are in negotiations. We passed. That’s past right now.’ So anyway, reality has a way of intruding.”


Commenting on the YouTube video of a conversation between an Armenian American activist and Vice-President Joe Biden, during which the latter said that Armenian President Serge Sarkisian had asked him to refrain from recognizing the Armenian Genocide on the eve of the roadmap agreement between Turkey and Armenia, the U.S. embassy in Armenia issued the following statement:

“The Vice-President and President Sarkisian spoke twice in April 2009. In these calls, the vice-president told President Sarkisian the United States believes that the normalization of relations with Turkey and the opening of borders would provide a path to a better future for Armenia and expressed the support of the United States for his leadership. The vice-president expressed the Obama Administration’s support for a Swiss proposal for a joint Armenia-Turkish statement on progress made toward normalizing relations. President Sarkisian did not raise the issue of the content of President Obama’s statement for Armenian Remembrance Day or seek a delay in consideration of House Resolution 252. Instead, the discussions between Vice-President Biden and President Sarkisian that were recently referenced by the vice-president were about the need to take immediate steps to improve Armenian-Turkish relations. The two leaders agreed that there should be no preconditions to normalizing relations between Armenia and Turkey.”

The video had generated a harsh and prompt response from the Armenian president’s office on Oct. 27.

Commenting on the video, Sarkisian’s press secretary Armen Arzumanyan said the president had not called Biden, nor had he made the statement attributed to him. Arzumanyan invited the White House to release the official records of the conversation.

“Upon Joe Biden’s request, two phone conversations were held in 2009, during which time the president of the Republic of Armenia did not make the statement attributed to him in the video—either directly or indirectly. On the contrary, in all his public speeches and official meetings, President Serge Sarkisian has emphasized the importance of the international recognition and condemnation of the Armenian Genocide, and urged not to justify the delay of recognition with the ongoing negotiations with Turkey. Being confident that the White House has at its disposal all of the U.S. vice-president’s official records and phone conversations, the RA presidential administration officially gives its agreement to publicize the noted phone conversation records,” he said.

Comments At Asbarez & Armenian Weekly

-So this means Biden was lying???

-As with all Washingtonian criminals, the American VP is a liar. The self-destructive peasants in Armenia’s so-called “opposition” were quick to disseminate this news, as they do with every other anti-Armenia propaganda that is thrown at them by Western or Turkish intelligence agencies. The White House has since retracted the VP’s statement. Is the “opposition” in Armenia courageous enough now to do the same with this followup?

- Joe Biden is full of it. It’s election time and he has to pander for votes. If he is not backing off, how come i can’t hear him use the word GENOCIDE in this video.. Yes reality has a way of intruding. I used to respect him. As it turns out, he is just another windbag, that’s all…

- I say baloney. Another attempt by the obama administration to cover their behinds in respect to their broken promises to the Armenian community of the US.

- I didn’t believe the “sellout” rhetoric before but after hearing this from Biden, Serzh really did sell us out to the Turks.

- The usual empty words.The Armenian president fell for the turkish trickery AGAIN.
Wait and see ,when April 24 2011 approaches,they will pull another fast one .You guys are so naive,to fall for this. The ARF was right from the beginning to oppose the protocol trick.If you guys fall to this again,then you deserve it.

- Incorrigible Joe Biden!
Everyone should take this Youtube video with a grain of salt. Things can be taken out of context. President Sarkissyan probably thought that the Protocols were a done deal when he called the VP. Now he knows that no Protocol can be a done deal unless the Armenian people says so.

Let’s be careful not to fall in traps meant to divide the Diaspora and Armenia further.

It is encouraging that Biden realizes that the “truth” cannot be covered for too long, and nothing can overcome the strong will of a people.

- Everyone, keep up your efforts in fighting for our just cause.

- Politicians twist words and even outright lie as a matter of course.
Don’t believe anything Biden says; like the other writer noted, he could have easily used the words ‘Armenian Genocide’….

- Democrats are desperate, so Biden had to manufacture something … from bits and pieces of conversations … to mollify Armenian-American voters.

- Throughout our history, whenever we have allowed ourselves to be divided by outside interests, we have been weakened and lost much.

- When we have closed ranks and presented a united front, we are immovable as Mount Ararat.
Best recent example: when Turks/Azeris attempted a 2nd Genocide against Artaskhtsi; had we fallen for attempts to divide us then, we’d now be begging ‘world leaders’ to recognize a 2nd Armenian Genocide, and to do something about it.

- Instead, our brothers and sisters of Artsakh are alive and free.

- Thank you Mr. Biden

- Turkey has to have her past in order to have a meaningful present and future. The USA should also review her policy with regards to the Armenian Genocide. I don’t believe that Obama refrained from recognising the Armenian Genocide just because Serj Sarkissyan told him to do. We all know the lethal combination of policies and the dirty politics that go on behind stopping this great historical tragedy to be recognised once and for all. Don’t kid yourselves and most important, don’t kid us!!!!!!!!!!

- “Tell them that it was the ArmenianPresident that called me and said ‘Look, do not force this issue now, while we are in negotiations. We passed. That’s past right now.’ So anyway, reality has a way of intruding.” Joe Biden

- What did the Vice President mean with that comment? Was he saying that the Obama administration was forcing this on us, and the Armenian president said do not force (recognize) this issue (Genocide) now, because we’re in negotations?

- “So anyway, reality has a way of intruding.” Joe Biden. What reality is he refering to? I think a clarification is in order from the Vice-President’s office.

- I’ve heard about the Armenian President calling on a US President to recognize the Armenian Genocide but for our very own President Sarkisian to call Biden up and urge him not to recognize the truth is just plain ludicrous. Did the Turks spend one penny lobbying Washington to ignore truth during the signing of the so called protocols or did benevolent Sarkisian help the Turks out during this economic downturn and agree to do their work for them pro bono?
Have you no shame Sarkisian?

- Either Serge Sargsian is lying, or Biden is. We need some clarification from the White House and Armenia.

- I just do not believe this VP guy.
Now he does not have any excuse, trying to blame armenian president.
That is ridiculous.
We all know what Mr. Biden promised to get elected including Mr Obama and Mrs klinton, they all tricked Armenians.

- And just upon that we should vote for them??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

- Any Armenian who believes this garbage- 6 days before the midterm election- is a FOOL, plain and simple.

- Very well said

- I agree with Harry, what does Biden mean when he said, reality has a way of intruding?? So disappointing.

- Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us!

- Hello ANCA, any comment?

- I think Joe Biden is not telling the truth.
It would be interesting to ask Mr. Biden to reveal “the stenographies and recordings of all official phone conversations of U.S. Vice President”, as “Armenian President’s Administration gives its official consent to publish the mentioned phone conversation’s recording.”
www.aysor.am/en/news/2010/10/27/president-biden/

- If both parties want to get out dry out of the water it will we decided that the translators of the phone conversation did a poor job.

- Every self respecting Armenian should press more clarification of this issue and evidence to the contrary if any… Any one fallowing the events of the now “frozen” Armenian-Turkish protocols will clearly remember how the Sarkisyan administration was using all the resources available to it (legal or illegal) to force the protocols on the Armenian nation, they also will remember how the Armenian administration was playing with words on its position of the Armenian genocide recognition and its fundamental place for the Armenian nation. Everyone clearly remembers that the Armenian president and its administration/ the coalition, only started talking and emphasizing the genocide issue well after they were badly fooled and in the process embarrassed when the Turks cleverly tricked them, left them alone in the room, scrunching their …

As much as everyone knows that there are no angels on any sides specially when one talk about politics and politicians, IE / Vice President Joe Biden, or the rest of President Obama / administration, I think it is the President Sarkisian’s office that should publicize any recorded tape of the conversation. The Ball is in the President Sarkisian’s court and not the Vice-President Biden’s.

- Couldn’t agree with you 1,2,4. Armenian President’s Administration publicly labeled Biden as a liar. It is now up to Biden to clear his name or to swallow the insult.

- Ara jan, lol
You might have had a point if either of the two parties had any credibility or for that matter any dignity left…

And then again, I think after all said and done, Vice-President Biden/ President Obama and rest of the Administration are not the President of Armenia, or have a constitutional obligation, like President Sarkisyan ( chapter11 of Armenian constitution) in connection to the Armenian Genocide. As much as everyone hoped that the Obama administration will be more honorable then it’s predecessors in keeping their pre election pelage, the genocide issue never was nor anytime will be a responsibility, a central issue for them like it is, and always will be for any Armenian president. America’s President is not accountable to the Armenian nation, the Armenian President is. Beggars can’t be choosers after all.

Armenian nation everywhere always has and always will expect Armenia’s President to come true on this issue 100%, may the name of a President be SERJ, POGHOS , PETROS or MARTIROS…

- Don’t be surprised if Mr. Biden tells later I mean after elections are over “Oh, you know guys I was supposed to say that Turkish president called me. I’m an old guy, have problems with memory, sorry about it”. I for instance do not believe that Mr. Sarkissian would have said such a thing to him. But wait and see what kind of noise will ANC make out of this.

- Biden is lying at least in the part where he says that Sargsyan called him. Biden called Sargsyan twice on April 20 and April 23, 2009. The rest is on the record and at least the Armenian side does not object the release of the tape to media. Does Biden have reservations? Why? If the protocols were the obstacle to the US recognition, then why did not Joe Biden do so last year on April 24 when the protocols were frozen beyond repair?

- I read it in Asbarez,
(A video showing an Armenian activist talking to Vice-President Joe Biden was posted on YouTube earlier today. In the video, Biden says, “The Turks have to come to the realization of what the reality is.”

Question: “I’m Armenian, and I want to thank you for the work you did in the Senate. I have a question. I am very involved in the Armenian American community and as you know we’ve been…”
Vice-President Biden: “Oh, I know.”
Question: “… we’ve been very, very burned. I want to know what is the message that we should be giving to our community?”

Biden: “What you should be giving to your community is that we are not backing off. The Turks have to come to the realization of what the reality is. And what we got to do is, you know, this, the compromise that was going on and being worked at for a while… Tell them that it was the ArmenianPresident that called me and said ‘Look, do not force this issue now, while we are in negotiations. We passed. That’s past right now.’ So anyway, reality has a way of intruding.”)

If this so-called “Armenian Activist” character is really exist, then Why he or she doesn’t come out of his Mouse-hole and throw light on this …”Tazzag” (excuse my Tikranagerd language Mr Biden, if not your invention) news? instead goes on pasting the news on a You Tube.

- For this very reason those liars should be voted out, they think their old strategy of divide and conquer still works, taking Armenians as naive and simple minded, though they claim to be university grads I bet they cannot spell Armenian Genocide,

Reality sure does have a way of intruding Mr. Biden. You can tell members of your administration that they will face that reality point blank come November.

- VP Biden is a liar.

- Yes, Biden may well be lying.

On the other hand, what does it say about President Sargsian that many of us think that the story could be true?

And what does it say that we feel that Sargsian does not put forth the Genocide issue as strongly or frequently as he should?

This is where our skepticism comes from. The lack of credibility on Sargsian’s part is his own doing, not Biden’s.

One example is the Protocols where the implication seemed to be that the factuality of the Genocide would be subject to a debate by Turks and Armenians. Even if that was not what it would be, why was it put in the Protocols to begin with? What was the compelling reason?

Sargsian should take this Biden incident as yet another wakeup call.

- Let vp biden clarify his statements and substantiate his claims about what the Armenian President may have said by publicizing his phone conversations with President Sarkisian.

If he can prove it, I may believe him.

Kudos to the yerdasart for asking and recording this question to his face. The next time the VP tries to place his hands on you while trying to attribute his administrations faults to something else, back off a bit and remove his hands asking him politely not to touch you. Tell him his hands have blood on them…

- First of all,it seems that my original letter was discarded;either by the editor or internet moderator.

I had stated that chalk this event as a proof of inexperienced Armenian president and as a win for turkish influence on US government.This is another proof that ARF’s stand against the so called protocols was RIGHT from the beginning.That was a gimmick by Turkey to delay the recognition of ARMENIAN GENOCIDE. Let’s see what kind of trick they will pull out this time when April 2011 approaches,and what kind of evasive response will President Obama give to this .The only president in recent history who mentioned THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE as such was the late president Ronald Reagan;the rest all are/were evasive and no balls.

- Dear Ham. Maj.

You are dead wrong, VP Biden is the most open, transparent and honest of all, his words are right from his heart which among politicians is an extremely rear commodity to an extend that to their standards even sometimes he sounds stupid to them.

Now let me educate you.

The Sevres Treaty of 1920 signed by Turks and the WW I allies; assigning USA as mediator where after US congressional approval and President Woodrow Wilson signature with grate seal of USA alond with a map which clearly has drawn boundaries between Armenia and Turkey with provision of a wide buffer zone in between; to date is the only valid document in the world which unfortunately is being held back by US just to keep Turks tamed, and Russia by learning that by using the disputed lands between Armenia and Azerbaijan are exactly doing the same thing on those two Independent countries.

Later Pentagon did use the same control tactic by introducing a new map of that region showing a large area named “New Kurdistan” which also includes the northern part of Iraq which has large Kurdish population; assigning less territories that what was assigned by above mentioned map to Armenia.

These are all games without any legal basis because as I mentioned above The Sevres Treaty to date is the only International legal documents signed by countries.

Now all above said if we go back to the so-called “Protocol” between Armenia & Turkey if we read it carefully; top to bottom is nonsense and formality garbage except when it talks about the borders between Armenia and Turkey where the language is trying to get consent from Armenia as a nation to nullify “The Sevres Treaty” by agreeing to stay within EXISTING BOARDERS; because nullifying the 1920 treaty requires a document signed between two COUNTRIES only, any other legal document which lacks that condition in one or both sides (which there are some on the table) is not valid to nullify such document.

I’m sure VP Joe Biden comment was based on having that knowledge; something that either you didn’t have or if you are a “Politician” was hiding it.

Now that you got educated, I think at this point an apology to Honorable VP Joe Biden is due, go ahead…..

- Let me get this straight.

Armenia’s President said the following during the signing of the protocols and then restated it again today: the RA doesn’t have a problem with the US recognizing the Armenian Genocide and in fact official Yerevan urges them to do so without delay.

Biden is now saying that we didn’t recognize the Armenian Genocide because official Yerevan asked us not to. In other words US officials may want us to believe that they supposedly misunderstood the RA. I think its safe to say that the RA has clarified and restated their sentiments quite clearly for the administration now.

So now that this supposed misconception is out in the open, what are Obama and Biden waiting for…or is there another lame excuse waiting for our community?

- I’m writing to you as to the most educated person among all Armenians to share with you my finding that among the beings created by Our Almighty Creator there is no such creature as HONORABLE Joe Biden. Armenian President’s Administration publicly labeled Biden as a liar. It is now up to Biden to clear his name or to swallow the insult. My guess is he will swallow.

- Yes, Joe Biden is not only a liar, he is an EVASIVE LIAR!

- Was this a Biden gaff again? Did Sarkisyan really say it? It all depends on whether the US withheld aid to Artsagh or Armenia in exchange for Sarkisyan’s acquiescence about the Diaspora’s rights. Don’t forget, Sarkisyan is from Artsagh and he may have horse traded the Diaspora’s 2 Trillion dollar property rights against Turkey so as to preserve his and the Oligarch stooges property interests in Artsagh. This could be a ploy from president Obama (his father was Muslim) to pressure Sarkisyan to make concessions to the Azerbadeljanis.

I would like the full comments in proper context. Let us see.

- FOR SURE ONE OF YOU ARE LYING …………………………………………………………. SIR, BE CAREFUL ARMENIAN PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU. THEY WILL FIND OUT THE TRUTH.

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I would believe Biden over Sargsyan any day. Biden has a reputation for unedited comments. He gets in trouble for this once in a while. This sounds like another honest, unedited fact.

- Like you were on conference call with them to know about all the details!

- I don’t trust either man, but I’m going to need some proof though if I am to believe that Biden’s comments are indeed fabricated. The Armenian president was stupid enough to agree to the protocols after all. He may in fact be a bigger enemy to Armenia than either the Turks or the Azeris.

- Both Sarkisian and Biden politically are right…..it all depends who “decoded” the genocide word from English into Armenian or ViceVersa …it’s seems to me that “real genocide” word play a huge politics between US and Turkey these days!!

After all this “sensitive” word of Genocide translated into White House dictionary as Mez Yeghern two years ago by Biden’s master..

- This Biden dude is a liar and a shame! The Armenian President never said that and that’s why he has asked the White House to reveal its records! Damn liars!

- Thanks for your attempt to educate us on a historical discourse!
In no way does it refute the fact that Joe Biden, if not a liar, is
certainly evasive!

- The 50th anniversary was a turning point for the Armenian Genocide in the world but at that time it was mostly for educating ourselves (Armenians) and Mets Yeghern was used at that time and no one complained about, later when it started infiltrate in news media of the host countries in Europe and US with significant amount of Armenian population, the foreign language media first and then us started using The Armenian Genocide instead.

We all know that always was and still is a big joy if a high ranking none Armenian official uses an Armenian word in any public event, it elevates that gathering to its highest point, now if some bias comrades of mine allow me to say something without getting sarcastic comments back, We all know that Joe Biden has been around for a long time; now IF he has used that M. Y. Before April 2010 comment of the President Obama; then everybody should agree with me that it is an unfair low blow to bring it in this context.

- I for one am flattered when a non Armenian utters an Armenian word.
However, in the context of the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE on the international arena ,it is not acceptable.If you ask why? because the rest of the world does not know that “Medz Yeghern” is the same as THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE.That’s why.No it is not acceptable by a world figure and on the eve of April 24 to say that and NOT the GENOCIDE word.No balls.You cannot defend that evasive statement in NO shape and form.

I hope the truth comes out sooner rather than later;who said what and when.
Bottom line is ,we heard him say the “The Armenian Genocide” during his running for the most powerful position in the world,but he laughed yes laughed at us by reneging on his promise and did not say the true powerful words “ARMENIAN GENOCIDE’.

- Unfortunately we are all still evading the fact that “The Cold War” still exists and by giving the total credit to President Reagan; every night we go to bed with peace of mind.

Do I need to say that it still exists and after the collapse of the USSR in the Chess game the side (I don’t want to use colors) which was hibernating when woke up faced with the sour reality that the other side has already gobbled some of its items from the board and soon after started retaliating to get even in the game.

Having that in mind that those two blocs with some modifications still exist and considering that which side the Armenia nowadays is; then isn’t it naïve to assume that the other bloc would and should dance to the opponent’s tunes?

- Mez Yeghern is good for the moral of Armenians…Genocide to force Turkey to accept Mez Yeghern…just like Shoha, Jews used among themselves and Holocaust in world stage..21 advanced countries use word of Genocide and only one country used Mez Yeghern, which morally is wrong for Armenians!! Unfortunately Genocide word is a useful tools in the world of politics, especially for USA, in order to manipulate their immediate political wills…

Politician like Biden is not HOLY and he does not care for the truth of Mez Yeghern, or “Armenian cause” Mr Biden’s goal, to bring Turks into “forced negotiation” table, where “stupid bird” tried to be free for a while in the land of Ottomans!!…all I can say that no politician is born to be holy, and Biden is not exceptional, even Sen. Edward Kennedy shortly before his death, wrote a letter to Pope and asked God’s forgiveness, for unholy decisions, that he made during his political life…according to Bible we all born sinners, especially POLITICIANS…

- U.S. Senator Barak Obama promised to recognize the Genocide, not the Medz Yeghern, when he’d become U.S. President.

I never ever said to use M. Y. instead of Genocide it is even stupid to use any word from one language in the other, I was just explaining the history of the M. Y. in reply to Grish that as he says himself Joe Biden used that about 2 years ago and I was telling him that it is not fair to say he did it with bad intentions.

Look Greg, we can’t go back and dig the records of those phone conversations its national security issue on both sides and to my knowledge further debate about it to find out who is right or wrong is just waste of time so let’s leave politics to politicians because politics means to hide something from someone to gain advantage and that to me means LYING.

BTW, One thing from video that I wasn’t clear for me is what the hell Biden is doing to that youngster; looks like he is conducting a body search on him. :-) ))

- Please read it carefully I’m not suggesting to swap Genocide with anything I’m just giving the history of the M. Y. which has been used before just by Armenians.


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23 October 2010

3159) Armenia 2020, Diaspora-Homeland Issue Paper

 Diaspora © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com 1. Dispersed Armenians vs. Diaspora
“Fixed Menu” Institutions that make up the organized community – e.g., schools, churches, cultural, charitable, social, athletic, political parties, lobbies, conferences, trade associations.
The Silent Majority and the institutional vacuum in which they live

2. Homeland vs. Armenian State

3. Relationship
Modalities of Relationship
Patterns of human interaction between Diaspora and Armenia - tourism, exchanges, family ties
Economic relations between Diaspora and Armenia – charity, consumption, direct vs. indirect investment, support for culture, Conferences
East is East and West is West?
Repatriation – Bad Legacy of Repatriation during Soviet period
Attitudes of Diaspora toward Armenia, Armenia toward Diaspora, attitudes of others toward both, attitudes of various Diasporan communities toward each other

4 Sub-Groups 184.1 Religious affiliation - Armenian Apostolic, Armenian Catholic, Russian Orthodox, Armenian
Evangelical Protestant, other non-Armenian Christian, believer, agnostic, non-believer
Post-Genocide & Cold-War Legacy
Inner Diaspora (within the CIS vs. outside the CIS), residual cold war mentality
External Diaspora – relationships and diverse cultures of Armenian communities and hyphenated Armenians - Europe, Mid-East, Turkey, Australia, South America communities
New Diaspora (from Armenia) vs. Old Diaspora
Eastern vs. Western Armenian language and subcultures
The role of the causes underlying dispersion on the Diasporan mentality- Genocide, economic emigration, political persecution
Centrifugal vs. Centripetal forces, Convergences, Divergences, Hybrids Internalized
multiculturalism
Blurring of old boundaries, emergence of new faults along cultural lines, new alignments, cross-cutting institutions and individuals

5. Micro Issues - Individual Identity Issues
Typical life-cycle/patterns of a Diasporan individual/family
Tension between self-actualization and ethnic identity
Intermarriage, Assimilation
Positive Armenia/Armenian image, reputation incentive to identify as Armenian

6 External factors that impact relationship between Armenia and Diaspora, including geopolitical orientation, economic disparities
Relationship to non-Armenian Communities & Cultures – Ghettoization vs. Integration

7 Descriptions of Diaspora-Homeland Scenarios (“DH” Scenarios)
Hub & Spokes
Bilateral – Organized Diaspora vs. Organized Armenia
Organized Decentralization
Ad Hoc Decentralization
Repolarization
Alienation
. . .

8. Evolution of DH Scenarios

9. Compatibility of Diaspora-Homeland Scenarios with preliminary Armenia2020 Scenarios

10. Diaspora-Homeland Scenario trajectories



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3158) Obama’s Track Record of Armenian Genocide Recognition by ANCA

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Barack Obama has a long track record of commemorating the Armenian Genocide, has spoken compellingly of the moral imperative of U.S. condemnation of this crime against humanity, and has publicly pledged several times, in clear and forceful language, to fully and properly recognize the Armenian Genocide.

Obama Presidential Campaign:
1)January 19, 2008 Obama campaign statement outlining Barack Obama’s views on the importance of U.S.-Armenia relations, including his pledge to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

2)September 21, 2008 Obama campaign statement from Barack Obama celebrating Armenian Independence Day.

3)October 31, 2008 Obama campaign fact sheet reaffirming Barack Obama’s pledge to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

United States Senate:
1)April 18, 2005 Senate sign-on letter, signed by Senator Obama, urging President Bush to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

2)April 20, 2006 Senate sign-on letter, signed by Senator Obama,
. . urging President Bush to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

3)July 28, 2006 letter from Senator Obama to Secretary Rice concerning the firing of Ambassador Evans, which includes strong language in support of Armenian Genocide recognition.

4)June 19, 2008 responses to Senator Obama’s written questions to Ambassador to Armenia-designate Marie Yovanovitch.

5)April 28, 2008 U.S. Senate floor statement in remembrance of the Armenian Genocide.

6)June 16, 2008 constituent email response text to Illinois resident (and ANCA Chairman) Ken Hachikian in support of Armenian Genocide recognition.

7)April 12, 2007 YouTube video of Senator Obama during a public Capitol Hill constituent meeting, during which he stated: “For those who aren’t aware there was a genocide that did take place against the Armenian people. It is one of these situations where we have seen a constant denial on part of the Turkish Government and others that this occurred.”







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22 October 2010

3157) Observations And Proposals For The Improvement Of Relations Between Turkey And Armenia by Arman Sarvarian

 Sarvarian © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com The ongoing dispute between the Turkish and Armenian nations concerning responsibility for the pogroms against Ottoman Armenians in the ‘Hamidian massacres’ of 1894-1896, the ‘Adana massacre’ of 1909 and, especially, the massacres and forced deportations of 1915 (‘the pogroms’) . . . has been the longstanding sore in Turkish-Armenian relations during the past century. However, despite an ongoing series of campaigns during that period by various Armenian lobby groups to pressure mainly European and North American States to recognise responsibility of the Ottoman Empire for the ‘Armenian Genocide’, there remains a remarkable absence of clarity and purpose concerning the Armenian cause.

The forthcoming signing of two ‘Protocols’ between the Republics of Turkey and Armenia has caused great controversy and illuminated this lack of Armenian organisation and focus concerning coherent priorities, methodology and demands towards Turkey

Through analysis of the political aspects of the dispute, contemporary Turkish-Armenian relations are viewed primarily from the perspective of inter-State relations owing to the current intergovernmental negotiating framework. However, strong pressures rendering the success of the ‘roadmap’ initiative unlikely, it is submitted that the more modest and practicable goal of establishment of diplomatic and consular relations be pursued instead towards an incremental, long-term improvement of relations by constituting a forum for direct, public dialogue – including mutual protest concerning the pogroms dispute.

In considering the legal aspects of the dispute, it is advanced that it is not amenable to compulsory adjudication as a dispute resolution method. This is due to the inapplicability of the Genocide Convention 1948 and the fact that the Ottoman Armenian victims were not Armenian nationals at the time of the pogroms. The various forms of negotiation – including mediation, arbitration and voluntary adjudication – are accordingly more suitable to this intractable dispute, the just resolution of which would benefit Turks and Armenians alike. It is submitted, however, that Turkish responsibility for the Armenian pogroms does exist and that it can entail a duty to make reparation, the form of which is explored. In that context, the formulation of a clear, common Armenian strategy is a matter of utmost urgency in order to advance the dispute resolution process.

Incremental Improvement of Bilateral Relations Methodologically, an incremental approach towards improvement of Armenian-Turkish relations by resolving less emotive issues whilst delaying the genocide recognition dispute for later consideration is preferable over attempting to resolve the Armenian pogroms dispute conditionally with détente.

In decoupling the border 1 and diplomatic relations issues from the pogroms dispute by striving to improve bilateral relations through the establishment of diplomatic relations 2 and the opening of the shared border (reducing currently inflated commercial transit costs) would incrementally relax currently tense relations and prepare the respective populations for direct engagement concerning the Armenian pogroms dispute. Whilst a comprehensive settlement approach by which resolution of one issue would be linked to that of every other is possible, the bargaining game that this entails would render it difficult to compose a sufficiently balanced compromise in order to satisfy the domestic pressures placed upon both governments. In general, the establishment of diplomatic relations and the opening of the border are discretionary matters in international law.


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3156) Nagorno-Karabakh And Other Azerbaijani Occupied Territories Against A Background Of Armenian-PKK Cooperation

 Nagorno-Karabakh © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com The Kurdish issue, particularly the matter of founding a homeland for Kurds, has complicated efforts to stabilize a situation in Iraq. Recently, there is growing concern among international experts that the Kurdish issue could become a source of tension, and possibly conflict in the South Caucasus.

In 1997 an Armenian samizdat author suggested that restoring Kurdish autonomous
. . districts in the southern Caucasus could help resolve the Karabakh dispute, but later Armenia's 60,000-strong Kurdish community has taken a step likely to make finding a solution to that conflict even more difficult. In December 2007 the leaders of that community endorsed Serzh Sarkisyan for president of Armenia in the hopes that the latter would work to re-establish the Kurdish autonomous district in the Lachin corridor of Azerbaijan, where in 1992, the Kurds played a key role in breaking through Baku's military encirclement of Karabakh. And now Kurds in Iraq support the restoration of a Kurdish district in the Lachin district of Azerbaijan, viewing it as analogous to and a precedent for a Kurdish region in Iraq.

And Armenians across the Middle East have spoken in support of Kurds in both places. Among the Armenian activists doing so are members of the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA), well-known terrorist organization. Moreover, in December 2007 Seyran Barzani, the PKK (Kurdistan Workers' Party) representative in France, threatened that in case of a Turkish invasion into northern Iraq, Kurds would start military actions in Azerbaijan. Nevertheless, while some analysts consider the prospect of establishing a new Kurdish state in the Caucasus as mere fiction, other experts do not deny the possibility of such a scenario developing. Before moving to an analysis of the current situation, it is worthwhile to look at the historical aspects of the problem.

The idea of establishing a Kurdish state in Azerbaijan is not new. After the Bolsheviks seized power in Azerbaijan in 1920, the idea of using Kurdish nationalism to spread proletarian revolution over the Middle East occupied the minds of the Soviet leadership. In 1923 the communist government of Azerbaijan decided to establish Kurdistanskiy district (referred to as "Red Kurdistan"), encompassing Kelbajar, Lachin and part of the Gubatli region. Lachin city was chosen as the administrative capital of the new district. Soviet authorities hoped that the creation of a Kurdish district would serve as an inspiration for oppressed Kurds in the Middle East. In the case of a possible separation of Kurdish areas from Iran or Turkey, it would have been easy for Soviet authorities to "accommodate" or unite them with an already existing Kurdish district. Later in 1929, however, the Soviets abandoned this idea, abolished Kurdish administrative unite and deported most of the Kurds to Kazakhstan and Central Asia.

The "Independent Kurdistan" scenario was reanimated again in the early 1990s. After finishing the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenian forces captured Lachin and six other districts of Nagorno-Karabakh, including areas constituting the former "Red Kurdistan." In 1992 the Armenian-backed but unrecognized government in Karabakh announced the establishment of a Kurdish republic with its capital in Lachin. Using the Kurdish card, Armenian authorities were trying to show that not only was the Armenian minority fighting for independence from Azerbaijan, but the Kurdish minority was as well. However, this last attempt to revive the Kurdish issue failed again because of several reasons. First, due to the ethnic cleansing in the occupied territories, most of the Muslim Kurdish population had already fled to other regions of Azerbaijan. Second, by creating a Kurdish state in the region, Armenian authorities would have contradicted the basic Armenian argument in the Karabakh war: that Karabakh belonged historically to Armenia.

Azerbaijan has not been directly involved in Turkey's conflict with the PKK, instead limiting its assistance to information-sharing. After the launching of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) pipeline, PKK activities in Turkey began to endanger this economically lucrative regional project. In October Murat Karay?lan, leader of the PKK's military wing, announced that "since pipelines that cross Kurdistan (southeastern Turkey) provide the economic resources for the Turkish army's aggression, it is possible the guerrillas will target them". With the BTC pipeline crossing through territory in which the PKK operates, the possibility of such an attack cannot be discounted. An attack of this sort would send a shock wave all over the Caucasian region and would result in Azerbaijan being less attractive to foreign investors.

In early December 2007, both Turkish and Azerbaijani sources started to express their concerns about possible relocation of PKK bases from Northern Iraq to Armenia-occupied Nagorno-Karabakh. The Turkish "Zaman" newspaper informed that many intelligence reports had revealed that the PKK planned to move ten of its camps, previously established in the Qandil mountain range in the border areas of the Kurdistan region, to the Armenian occupied areas of Karabakh. The reports also say that a number of PKK gunmen had visited twelve Kurdish villages in the Karabakh region and asked the villagers to help them. The newspaper also revealed that a PKK gunman who had escaped from the camp and surrendered to the Turkish forces had given important information on the PKK and their plan to move their camps to Karabakh. Allegedly, the PKK bases would be located in Azerbaijani cities Shusha, Fizuli and definitely Lachin.

The news about PKK bases did not surprise Azerbaijani establishment. Already in April of 1998, the Turkish press was reporting that Armenia had seven PKK camps on its territory. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan's minister of defense stated in 1999 that up to 200 Kurdish terrorists were getting trained in Lachin region of occupied Azerbaijan. During the Turkish military operations in 1999, Stratfor reported that PKK members were retreating to Armenia for replenishing and re-training. Meanwhile, for a last couple of years Azerbaijan was collecting information and reporting to the international organizations about settlement of Armenians and Kurd from Middle East in Karabakh region. During visit of the Turkish President to Azerbaijan in November 2007, both sides discussed possible PKK relocation to Azerbaijan and the establishment of new Kurdish settlements in Karabakh. Araz Azimov, deputy Foreign Minister stressed that in case of necessity Baku could consider to apply anti-terrorist measures against PKK bases. The PKK is a terrorist organization according to the US, EU, UK, Turkey and many other states' laws.

As we see PKK terrorists have been settling in Nagorno-Karabakh and in portions of Armenian-occupied Azerbaijan, with the tacit support of the Armenian government in Yerevan. Many of the Kurds are reputed to have resettled in the strategically important Lachin Corridor, a strip of territory now occupied by Armenia that was formerly part of Azerbaijan proper. Control of Lachin is one of the main obstacles in the search for a Karabakh settlement. PKK terrorists have established training camps in and around Karabakh, and that Armenian authorities have given Kurds access to state broadcasting facilities. Political organizations in Armenia, including such a terrorist organization as Dashnakstoutiun, are actively assisting the Kurdish separatists, seeing them as a means to strengthen Armenians' hold on Karabakh. According to the Jerusalem Post, the PKK is under the protection of foreign intelligence organizations and financed by some of the separatist Kurdish businessman and international drug smugglers. Furthermore, Israeli Debka File accuses Armenian Government of giving Armenian citizenship to the PKK militants. However Armenia cannot decide on PKK move issue without support of another country. Such countries could be Greece, Russia and Greek Cyprus

The Karabakh authority wins from relocating PKK bases on its territory. First, hundreds of Kurdish families will move to Karabakh along with PKK terrorists. By this move Armenian authorities try to increase Karabakh's diminishing population. Second, Karabakh get hundreds if not thousands experienced guerilla fighters. If Azerbaijan decides to wage war to get back its territories, its army would need first to fight through PKK controlled areas before reaching Karabakh's heartland. Third, the establishment of PKK's base in Lachin and Kalbajar would be the first step for creation of Kurdish state. It is important to mention also that Kurdish minority of Armenia numbering sixty thousand people, hopes that Armenia would help them to get their autonomy. The PKK, as a professional terrorist organization, has all features of government and can take such responsibility. Some experts draw a parallel stating that Kurdistan in Karabakh is a miniature of Iraqi Kurdistan. It is interesting that idea of Kurdistan in Caucasus was met with great sympathy in Iraqi Kurdistan calling for direct relations with this region. They also believe that both Kurdistans can be a counter-balance for Pan-Turkism.

For a long time experts in international relations warned that non-recognized territories could become rogue states - sources of terrorism and criminal activities. These territories are de facto independent, but not bound by any international treaties. Thus, no sanctions can be applied there to comply with international law. They have their own armies, law-enforcement, and political institutions. But lack of financial viability and absence of economy force them to earn money through weapon sales, drug-trafficking and places for training of terrorists and guerillas.

Karabakh, for example, remains one of the most militarized patches of earth in the world. The PKK's decision to move to Karabakh is rational, well-thought out and of benefit to both sides. Karabakh is the only territory in the Middle East and the Caucasus that can be immune from any military actions of Turkey. Most of the countries of the region would hardly host PKK, risking the wrath of the Turkish army. Even for Armenia it would be suicidal to establish PKK camps on its territory. Armenian government would need to give explanations to the world community and can get sanctions. But Karabakh is a different story. The Turkish army would hardly chase PKK terrorists in Karabakh. Any Turkish military actions in that area would definitely involve Armenian troops deployed in that region. Armenian participation would automatically bring Russia into the conflict as a guarantor of security of its southern ally. Russian involvement into the conflict with member of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is a nightmare scenario for many politicians in the world. PKK also will not be considered as an alien element in Karabakh.

Many Armenian terrorist organizations including notorious Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA) had successfully cooperated for a long time with PKK. For example, in April of 1980, both organizations held a press conference in Sidon, Lebanon, where they issued a joint declaration on fighting against Turkey. Later, ASALA members, including famous Monte Melkonyan, took part in a war against Azerbaijan. Together with them, many PKK militants fought in Karabakh against Azerbaijani army in summer of 1992.

At a moment when some officials are expressing hope about a breakthrough via the Minsk Group and others, including the International Crisis Group, are suggesting that there is a threat of renewed fighting, the Kurdish initiative in Armenia provides those opposed to any settlement with yet another means to block it. It is very difficult to predict how the situation will evolve, but one can be sure that the introduction of a new nationalist-terrorist element in a volatile region like the Caucasus would play a severely negative role. While Azerbaijani and Armenian authorities are trying to reach peace accords over Karabakh, the PKK factor could significantly undermine the entire process. If all peace initiatives are exhausted and Baku begins to view conflict as the only means of regaining lost territory in Nagorno-Karabakh, the presence of the PKK could be used by Azerbaijan's hawks as yet another argument in favor of war.


by Ilgar MAJIDLI, October, 2010 Eurasiacritic.co.uk




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20 October 2010

3155) FBI Busts Armenian Mafia For The Largest US Medicare Fraud


August 16, 2011 Update

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15 October 2010

3154) Psychological Dimension Of The Armenian Question By Assist Prof Dr Deniz ALTINBAS

© This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com Abstract: The political, diplomatic, historical, sociological and legal aspects of the problem known as the “Armenian question” is being researched and analysed from different points of view. However, the psychological dimension which is the most important field in solving the problem is lacking. The paper deals . . with the past traumas and psychological situations of all the parties: Armenians of Armenia, Armenian diaspora, Turkish Armenians, Turkish people who defend the Turkish “official view”, Turks who apologise from the Armenians claiming that they feel guilty, and the Western world which puts pressure on Turkey. As it is defended that the basis of the problem lies in psychology, the solution is not focusing on the future, but on overcoming the past traumas.

Keywords: Mourning, social trauma, chosen trauma, time collapse, transferred memory



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12 October 2010

3153) Globalization? Yes, But Of Ethics, First! By Sukru Aya

Globalisation - © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com


Speech At International Blue Black Sea Congress On Politics, Economics And Society
Oct. 11-112 - 13 Sakarya University - Adapazari (120 Km To Istanbul)

Esteemed Ladies and Gentlemen

I thank Sakarya University for inviting me to this foresighted organization and attempt to establish strong and beneficial relations for all of the people living in the Black Sea region, based on reciprocal respect, confidence and happiness.

Gentlemen, who will not wish to have a decent, good natured neighbor? A friend send me a photograph of a house on sale in USA. It said “HOUSE FOR SALE, MY NEIGHBOR IS AN …HOLE!
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Nowadays, living in apartments or condos, good neighbors and visits, neighbor to neighbor trust and help in bad days remain a memory or a tale that never happened! But we all try to have good friends we can trust, and if he is a neighbor, it is much better and nice. In old days people trusted their families, children, valuables to each other when going on a trip! Nowadays we use steel doors with more than one lock. Why?

By this time and age, we all know that the golden rule is that the law and justice is made by the one who has the money and the power. This is very true and most all political relations are subject to this rule and in other words, alliances or friendships are based on “nothing but interest” and generally it serves more the interest of the stronger or the richer one.

The underdeveloped countries expect and trust saviors that they will bring them “democracy, human rights, justice, equality in sharing national benefits” and some persons leading such countries either sincerely believe or they are given good shares to believe in these utopist promises. But, those who do not read history and think that they are “wise because they can cheat the less wise ones” forget that such spiral rings have been all broken in the history and the “bravest man is the one who has nothing left to lose but his life…"

I have seen or read a few ones in my life time, starting with WW2, Korean War, French and Americans fighting in Vietnam and the resistance of the other destitute nations against imperialism. We all know the Berlin Wall, the collapse of the Soviet Union , and the injustices before and after certain regimes.

May be it is because of the peaceful balance established by the Montreux Treaty, spared the riparian countries of the Black Sea of such conflicts, the Black Sea region has brought no serious frictions among the neighbors surrounding this sea.

However, we see that the potential of the economic union of the Black Sea Countries which Turgut Ozal had forseen several years ago had very limited progress. This invites the attention of the “Big Powers” who usually give a lot of advice, a little money and take too much, even liberties when they deem necessary.

Because of my addiction to decency and truth, in the past decade I have done tens of thousands of pages of reading on the incidents of WW1 and in particular the Armenian allegations.

Don’t get me wrong, some of my best friends in my personal high school, business and social life happened to be Armenians from Turkey . I have compiled a book two years ago, titled “The Genocide of Truth” which quotes over 2000 verbatim excerpts from official documents or anti-Turkish documents, mostly Armenian, American, British etc.

It is unbelievable how many scholars and politicians who give speeches from the drafts put in their hands, do not take any interest to make sure that what they are talking reflects the truth and if that is in compliance with minimal basics of truth and decency. I have hundreds of pages of “promises given by powers which were not kept, causing deaths of millions”.

For example Lloyd George when he was reminded of his words, he said “I do not think that we should be responsible for what we said”. Well, I do not have to give the story of what happened in our area and is still happening because of some persons who think they are smart by pick-pocketing or land grabbing, cannot realize how much they are losing on the other hand. An excellent example is our naughty neighbor Armenia ruled by adventurers, terrorists and long time opportunists.

I do not believe that ethical values should be standards for nations or faiths, but I do believe that these values should be standards for the individuals who would rather stay poorer but prouder, instead of some richer ones who do not know what “shame or honor is”.

It is ironic that the largest assistance I had and I am having for the past five years in the world of internet communication, is from a group of three young Armenians from Turkey that fear to present themselves in person to me. Of course they live overseas. So, it is a fight of the “few decent and truthful ones” against the majority of “shameless liars and swindlers”.

I am preparing my second book and in the chapter which I named “Fake and Shake History by Teachers of Cheaters”

I give granite strong and heavy documents proving the involvement of even universities and scholars in acts of lying and brainwashing by strong propaganda and diverse support.

You cannot believe to what level such duplicity or plain lying goes! A Turkish writer received a Nobel prize simply because he said that “Turks killed one million Armenians”. But my logic says, to kill 1 million in 100 days, you have to kill 10.000 persons every day, and you have to dig stadium size graves every day to dispose of the bodies and you cannot find that daily muscle power. Is this physically possible (disregarding all other documentary evidences that it was never intended or happened) to kill so many, by what, bullets or knives? Not even Hitler could kill so many every day in his several death camps for wholesale or mass annihilation.


Fake Quote of Hitler in the Holocaust Museum

Speaking of Hitler, you know that there is an alleged quote which he supposedly said and which is on the wall of the Holocaust Museum in Washington. But Hitler never had a reason or ever said such words! These were written on an ordinary blank paper with a typewriter which was not of German keyboard, full of punctual mistakes and stupid stories that Goering got drunk and danced over tables. Anyway this document can be seen on the internet, it was classified by FBI as fake, the Nuremberg court refused to consider it, so it is a complete LIE but that has jumped many scholarly attention and is posted on the “Presidential U.S. Museum of Holocaust”. This museum was intended only for the Jewish holocaust in Germany but seome smart guys made promises etc. and this fabrication is put there and cannot be removed although the Museum by now is fully aware that this is fake. In reading the backstage story, you learn that some decent scholars objected this distortion for political benefits and they honorably resigned from their chairs. But the new comers found an excuse to say YES and accept the “fait accomplice” or force major, openly sacrificing museum and scholarship ethics, laws, oaths and the confidence people placed in them. A friend of mine who has been following this scandalous episode pressed the Museum Management and they wrote back in the year 2002 that they “are looking wrote back into the accuracy of the Hitler quote…I cannot give an indication when it will be completed”… Eight years have passed and they are still looking into the matter but do not wish to see the fake documents posted on the internet, nor previous reservations of their own committee members, some of which had resigned.” Truth, justice and ethics have been sacrificed, as if it was a lamb!

Well gentlemen, why did I give these few examples? It so happens that those at governance can lie themselves or be forced to execute unethical orders, the same way Nazis picked up the Jews (incidentally there was 22.000 Armenian legion soldiers in Hitler’s armies and 4.800 of them were special SS troops, but those who organized committees and wrote books with photos of Jews rounded up in Amsterdam, did not know that the Armenian Legion did most of the job there since it was their region. We have no confirmation if the promised donations was ever paid by Armenians, but Jews had put the inscription on the wall and they have no one to complain to. What more, those who are righting history “declared the Nazi Armenian soldiers” not as criminals of their ancestors, but “poor victims whose fathers were killed by Turks in 1915 and the Jewish museum was to serve as the place of confirmation.

I can hear you say, “Well Sir, what persons in our position can really do to avoid such happenings in our present or future cooperation in this area?

I am a practical businessman and when I was young I traveled most countries on business and made friends with many different color, nationality and race. Our “common principles” was “keep your promise and do not lie or cheat to each other.”

Now, how such a principle can be expanded for such a large group of countries and people with different standards of knowledge or capital is the core of everything. If you start cooperation on slippery ice or mud, sooner or later you or your partner is bound to fall and when he fells you lose a good friend, customer or help, whatever you name it.

In the Kapal?cars? or closed Bazaar, there is an old habit among all shopkeepers that is working like a click clock for decades that I have known. The system is simple but depends on reciprocal confidence. When a tourist comes to buy something but cannot find it in that shop, the shop keeper would assist the customer to go to some other places he knows and have a satisfied tourist. If the buyer is helped and buys what he wanted in the other shop, he goes home happy. And here comes the system of solidarity. The shop that has made the final sale, reserves a commission or share from his profit, which is about 10 to 15%. So, the little shopkeeper who sold nothing but helped his neighbor gets a little share of the turnover.

I think that this too is an old invention by Armenians and the name is “annut” in Turkish HANUT.

Gentlemen, the worst thing that can happen and jeopardize the interest of all Black Sea region countries, is to have “competition with each other” instead of solidarity and share of interest. When “united under share of interest” the Black Sea countries can become a power to be able to take joint decisions so that they do not deprive each other’s interest. Each neighbor has something to exchange with his neighbor. How such a large cooperation can be established and on what principles namely, such as length of shore lines, or amount of capital invested, technology etc is the job of those who have to boil a large enough kettle, so that all neighbors can have some of the soup. The politicians or administrators and entrepreneurs better put their chef’s caps and worry about what goes in the stew to feed all, by some decent – no one cheats his friend – system.

Let me finish my speech, with another Turkish proverb:

“When something is cooking at my neighbor, may be a little comes my way”

Unfortunately, most poor countries fight over the empty kettles instead of thinking how to fill and cook and have something to share instead of fighting for.

I wish a large enough kettle, with vegetables and meat from neighboring countries, kept full and feeding all in good health, prosperity and hope for a better future for all of us.

Two last wishes:

1- Increase cultural relations between individuals so they come to understand each other and see how much they are alike.

2- Keep the clergy people in their own churches, mosques, synagogues let them do their sermons in there and not outside where we need science and intelligence and not thousand years tales!

Thank you all for your patience and my best wishes for all guest speakers and audience. I wish you all better days than what we are enjoying today!

Sukru Server Aya, 11.10.2010

ssaya01 at gmail dot com


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01 October 2010

3152) New Armenian Genocide Book /Or A Movie: Gardens Of Grief: Through Eyes Of Young American Agent Of U.S Bureau Of Investigation

 Gardens of Grief © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com Boston Teran’s latest book Gardens of Grief is about the Armenian Genocide based on historical fact. It's set in Turkey 1915 – – a fierce retelling of events in 1915 Turkey seen through the eyes of a young American, an agent for the Bureau of Investigation and the U.S. State Department.

Gardens of Grief, a sequel to Boston Teran's literary classic, The Creed of Violence, is not only a powerful and thrilling piece of literature, it is also a forceful condemnation of one of the most monstrous and controversial events of the twentieth century-the Armenian genocide. In 1915, Islamic fundamentalists in Turkey annihilated two million innocent Armenians. Were the atrocities committed by the Turkish government an unfortunate act of war, or the methodical extermination of a people that was unequalled in history up to that time? The novel has been compared to Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls, where honor and bravery align with selflessness, to the impassioned advocacy for justice of Emile Zola's J'Accuse, the writer's 1898 open letter on the Dreyfus Affair, and to the work of Solzhenitsyn, for his treatment of the horrors of oppression.



About the Author:
Boston Teran became a literary sensation with a first novel God Is a Bullet. The winner of numerous international awards, the author has been compared to novelists such as Hemingway, Maupassant, and McCarthy, and because of a unique writing style, also compared to the painters Picasso and Bruegel, the composer Tchaikovsky, and filmmakers such as John Ford, Sergio Leone, and David Lean.

Boston Teran was born and raised in the South Bronx. He is the author of several books.
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Universal Pictures bought one of Teran's recent books for $2.5 million. This book too might be a movie starring Kim Kardashian who wanted to make a film about the Armenian Genocide
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Book Review

GARDENS OF GRIEF a brilliant, and socially important novel - is less a sequel to THE CREED OF VIOLENCE than an organic evolvement. It follows John Lourdes, an agent with the Bureau of Investigation, who is sent by the U.S. State Department to Constantinople in 1915. The Great War has begun and the British have been defeated at the Dardenelles. In Turkey the government means to see every Christian Armenian exterminated, in what will become the first genocide of World History. John Lourdes clandestine assignment is to help an outlaw priest named Malek get safely across the war-ravaged Ottoman Empire. The priest, hunted by the Turkish government because he is an Armenian, is a hero to his people and a political threat to the Central Powers.

The novel, very much a Homeric epic, has the sweep and grandeur of LAWRENCE OF ARABIA. It will be to modern literature what the great chanson de geste THE SONG OF ROLAND was to the Middle Ages. A parabolic and visceral tale of sacrifice and martyrdom. It is not only compelling human drama, but it is also rich with detail about what truly took place in Turkey in 1915. The book is the definitive battlefield for those who say the genocide did happen, and those who say it did not. Regardless, the book presents the horror and the grandeur, in Kiplings words, Lest we forget...

There are other aspects of this work I would like to draw your attention to. The first, the parabolic nature of the style in which it is written. Many of the characters are addressed not always by their proper names, but by their symbolic name...the priest...the guide...the dragoman (county politico and translator)...the captain...the German... This gives the players in the drama an archetypal feel, a kind of cross-cultural timelessness. They are also written in a manner for the reader to imbue each of these characters with their own set of internal meanings and feelings, their own iconography.

This leads me to my second point, which I believe will make the book hotly debated beyond the fact it has taken a dynamic stand on one of the most controversial events of modern World History. GARDENS OF GRIEF can be viewed through many political prisms. The parabolic and cross-cultural feel of it, especially when focused on the central character...the priest, Malek.... can be read and seen many ways.

The priest.. a political figure, willing to die to free his people, takes up arms to fight, has killed, has been put in prison, has been tortured, but refuses to yield, escapes to fight again, is a hero to his people, understands who he is and what he is doing. This could be a George Washington type of personage, or a Nathan Hale who called out before his hanging "Give me Liberty or give me Death". From another perspective he could be a Robespierre or a Che Guevara. He could be John Brown inciting a war to free the slaves, or a member of the IRA. He could be Emperor Constantine merging Christianity and the flag of Rome, or a militant cleric from the Middle East rallying his followers. Malek is the vanguard of every revolution that ever was, or ever will be. I could imagine a child reading about Malek then going off to fight at Lexington and Concord, or in war torn Africa, the war torn states of Eastern Europe, the endless war torn states of everywhere and anywhere. And in that GARDENS OF GRIEF is a cautionary tale, a means by which we can view political friends and enemies, and how they become both.

Without giving details away, the climax of the book, much like the central struggle and drama of THE SONG OF ROLAND, an intentional act of sacrifice, could also be called Thermopyle or Bataan, Masada or the 47 Ronin or the Battle of Saragarhi. It was meant to be that kind of universal moment, but something else, and something more.

And that something else, something more is detailed in one particular instant near the end of the book, when John Lourdes is looking out over a potential site for the final, strategic confrontation between their small group of Armenian citizen/soldiers and a much larger enemy force, and he thinks to himself... From the first brutal murders on the quay in Constantinople, to the bombing at the Armenikend, he had been witness to the future, and the stark barbarity that gave birth to it. He saw that a new level of infamy had been ushered into all their lives. And he understood, they did not have the makings for a long fight, so one single and terrifying act would have to be enough to exact their will.

When the author uses the words "one single and terrifying act to exact their will" he is reminding us all fights ultimately now can lead to a Hiroshima or a 9/11.
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