Showing posts with label Richard Hovannisian. Show all posts
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1.12.15

3581) Buenos, Naidoo, Gauin, Salt, Kirlikovali, Sassounian, Aya, Walsh, Demirmen, Cheterian - 01Dec2015



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  1. Video: Tal Buenos Interview on Turkey-Armenia 100th Anniversary , Anand Naidoo
  2. Russia Using the ‘Armenian Card’ , Turgut Kerem Tuncel
  3. Robert Fisk, Between Francophobia And Turkophobia ,Maxime Gauin
  4. ECHR Confirms Freedom Of Expression In Armenian Case , Jeremy Salt
  5. The New Revenge Of Law On Politics , Maxime Gauin
  6. ECHR Grand Chamber Verdict Of October 15, 2015 : Pros & Cons , Ergun Kirlikovali,
  7. Top European Court’s Decision Should Make Pope Francis Blush, Ferruh Demirmen
  8. The Puppet Pope , Tal Buenos
  9. To Ban Genocide Denial, Court Incites Armenians to Commit Violence, Harut Sassounian
  10. Counter Comments for Harut Sassunian by Sukru Server Aya
  11. The European Court of Human Rights Violates My Rights , Vicken Cheterian
  12. Cheterian on EHCR human rights Response by Sukru Aya
  13. Amal And The Armenians: The Power To Attract, Tal Buenos
  14. Dadrian: An Armenian Name In An American Game , Tal Buenos
  15. The Neocolonialist Tactics Of The New York Times, Tal Buenos
  16. Were The Armenians ‘Über-Jews’? By Dr Pat Walsh
  17. Our “Genocidal” Allies (Again) By Dr Pat Walsh
  18. James Bryce – A Fatal Philanthropist Dr Pat Walsh
  19. Armenian Spin Machine: Peddling a Humiliating Defeat as Victory, Ferruh Demirmen
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1.5.15

3553) Comparing US-Armenian And Russian-Armenian Relations / Moscow Chooses Not To Ignore Or Forget The Armenian Genocide



  • Comparing US-Armenian And Russian-Armenian Relations

  • Moscow Chooses Not To Ignore Or Forget The Armenian Genocide

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    1.4.15

    3534) Book Review: Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: a Disputed Genocide

    Guenter Lewy, 2005. Publisher The University of Utah Press


    Part 1
    The literature is voluminous on what Armenians call the first genocide of the twentieth century and what most Turks refer to as an instance of intercommunal warfare and a wartime relocation. Yet despite the great outpouring of writing, an acrimonious debate over what actually happened almost one hundred years ago continues unabated. The highly charged historical dispute burdens relations between Turkey and Armenia and increases tensions in a volatile region. It also crops up periodically in other parts of the world when members of the Armenian diaspora push for recognition of the Armenian genocide by their respective parliaments and the Turkish government threatens retaliation. 'Vestnik Kavkaza' publishes chapters from the book of Guenter Lewy "The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: a Disputed Genocide", revealing the essence of the issue. . . .

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    30.11.14

    3502) Richard G Hovannisian On Lieutenant Robert Steed Dunn - A Review Note By Heath W Lowry

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    29.9.14

    3487) Book Review: Between Counterinsurgency and Genocide

    Richard Outzen
    September 18, 2014 · in Book Reviews
    Edward J. Erickson, Ottomans and Armenians: A Study in Counterinsurgency (London: Palgrave Macmillan, 2013)

    It is rare that a military historical study simultaneously informs professional debate and viscerally angers segments of the general audience, but Edward Erickson’s Ottomans and Armenians seems destined to do just that. The book provides valuable insights on the interrelationship of insurgency, counter-insurgency, atrocity, and conventional war.

    Military officers and general readers will find in Erickson’s work a nuanced discussion of thedilemmas and shortcomings of counterinsurgency as a mode of warfare. They may also be surprised at the complexity of the situation faced by Ottoman armies in the east in 1915. This is a welcome contribution, given the still unsettled debate on counterinsurgency in the wake of drawdowns in Iraq and Afghanistan and the still contentious history surrounding the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. The latter issue grants the book policy relevance beyond what one finds in most recent texts on counterinsurgency. This book can help stimulate and inform a higher level political debate that is certain to intensify over the coming year: whether the United States should formally recognize the killings of Armenians in eastern Anatolia during the First World War as genocide, in the centennial year of 1915.

    Relatively little has been published in English specifically about the Ottoman eastern fronts. Past authors have either covered the charges of genocide without detailed treatment of military considerations (such as Hovannisian), or focused on conventional military operations with little on the deportations (such as Allen and Muratoff).

    Erickson ignores neither Ottoman strategists nor the Armenian deportees; instead, he argues that the desperation of the former tragically led to the annihilation of the latter. He argues that the Ottoman political and military leadership did not initiate the brutal campaign of Armenian deportations in the Ottoman east in order to destroy a people, but did so in response to serious strategic threats to vulnerable lines of communication and to incitement of Armenian rebellion by the Entente powers. His conclusions are the result of his time studying Ottoman archival materials, providing a logical, evidence-based perspective about Ottoman motives and plans that have been viewed previously through polemical or conjectural
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    28.9.14

    3486) Many Genocides of Raphael Lemkin

    by Tal Buenos *, 11.09.2014

    As Raphael Lemkin's studies on the concept of 'genocide' acutely reveal, political motivations often overshadow the integrity and impartiality of academic endeavors. This fact has recurred in many case studies including the Turkish- Armenian conflict . . .

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    19.6.14

    3470) Book Review: Russian Origins of the First World War by Sean McMeekin

    Sean McMeekin, “The Russian Origins of the First World War,” Cambridge (Massachusetts)-Londres, Harvard University Press, 2011: not perfect, but quite interesting by many aspects.

    Pp. 272-273, n. 3: “More representative of the general Armenian line today are the books of Vahakn Dadrian and (with some exceptions) Richard Hovannisian. In ‘The History Armenian Genocide’ (orig. 1995; six editions so far, and counting) Dadrian devotes all of six pages of Russia’s role in ‘the Armenian disaster’—and these cover the pre-World War I period exclusively. Hovannisian in ‘The Armenian Question in the Ottoman Empire,’ his principal article in the volume he edited recently on ‘The Armenian People from Ancient to Modern Times’ (2004), does provide a fairly extensive discussion of Russia’s Armenian policy—but again, only in the period preceding the First World War. It is not that Hovannisian does not know about the Russian angle in World War I—in fact he covered this subject rather extensively forty years ago in ‘The Allies and Armenia, 1915-18’ (1968). Rather, he seems to have let it all slip down the memory hole in his later works, after becoming like an official spokesman for the Armenian cause in American academe.” . . .

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    23.4.14

    3458) Message Of Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan On 1915 Events / Comments by Peter Balakian, Jano Boghossian, Greg Sarkissian, Harut Sassounian & Sukru Aya

    The unofficial translation of the message of The Prime Minister of The Republic of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, on the events of 1915 in English, French, German, Spanish, Arabic, Russian and Eastern and Western Armenian languages.

    “The 24th of April carries a particular significance for our Armenian citizens and for all Armenians around the world, and provides a valuable opportunity to share opinions freely on a historical matter.

    It is indisputable that the last years of the Ottoman Empire were a difficult period, full of suffering for Turkish, Kurdish, Arab, Armenian and millions of other Ottoman citizens, regardless of their religion or ethnic origin.

    Any conscientious, fair and humanistic approach to these issues requires an understanding of all the sufferings endured in this period, without discriminating as to religion or ethnicity. . . .

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    15.5.13

    3402) 1915 Events: Critique & Exposition Of How Facts & Falsifications Mixed Up, Stirred & Served On A Golden Platter


    Buenos’ Review Of Üngör Article by Sadi Dinlenc

    Tal Buenos’ review (15 Characteristics Of The Armenian Narrative by Tal Buenos of yet another historical falsification of the 1915 Events, by Ugur Ümit Üngör, titled ‘ The Armenian Genocide, 1915, is an excellent critique and exposition of how facts and falsifications mixed up, stirred and served on a golden platter, as happened many times before.

    The review by Buenos clearly describes 15 points where Üngör manipulated previous writings, historical facts and ignored realities to suit his pre-determined purposes.

    The important issue here is not how Buenos has literally destroyed Üngör’s article but Buenos’ 15 famous points about destortion, ignorance and falsifications common to all articles written earlier by Armenians and/or their sympathizers, including some Turkish Apologizers recently, regarding the false claims of genocide. These articles, books and brochures commonly :
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    12.5.13

    3401) 15 Characteristics Of The Armenian Narrative by Tal Buenos*

     

    Related Post: 1915 Events: Critique and Exposition Of How Facts and Falsifications Mixed Up, Stirred and Served On A Golden Platter

    8 May 2013 /
    Following the outpour of media material on April 24 in memory of the dreadful events of 1915, it is important to take a step back and evaluate how this reflects on the Turk.

    A recently published chapter by Uğur Ümit Üngör, titled “The Armenian Genocide, 1915,” in “The Holocaust and Other Genocides: An Introduction,” edited by Maria van Haperen et al. (Amsterdam: Amsterdam University Press, 2012), is perfect for such an analysis. It does not introduce new aspects to the Armenian narrative of 1915. It unfolds the same story already told by scholars such as Vahakn Dadrian, Richard Hovannisian, Taner Akçam and Peter Balakian. It is not prototypical by any means; rather, it is perfectly typical. It stands out for its typicality, for being representative of the effort to strengthen the familiarity and acceptance of this Armenian narrative. Upon close inspection, one may glean certain overall characteristics of the Armenian narrative. The following 15 main characteristics point to a general theme: Turcophobia.
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    24.1.13

    3390) What Is Genocide? The Armenian Case: Are The Ottomans Guilty Of Ethnic Cleansing Or A Crime Against Humanity?


    by Gunter, Michael M,*
    * Michael M. Gunter, professor of political science at Tennessee Technological University,
    was senior Fulbright lecturer at the Middle East Technical University in Turkey.

    Middle East Quarterly; Winter2013, Vol. 20 Issue 1, p37-46, 10p



    Subject Terms:
    -HISTORY
    -ARMENIAN massacres, 1915-1923
    -DEFINITIONS
    -GENOCIDE
    -WORLD War, 1914-1918 -- Atrocities
    -OTTOMAN Empire, 1288-1918


    Abstract: The article discusses genocide in the context of the United Nations Genocide Convention's definition of the term after World War II and concludes it is reasonable to question the validity of calling the Armenian tragedy which occurred in 1915 in the Ottoman Empire genocide. The Young Turks regime's intent or premeditation to massacre all Armenians in Turkey is questioned. A discussion is supported with research showing that Armenians in the Armenian Revolutionary Federation resisted the Ottoman regime and were considered a threat to national security. The research includes Armenian state prime minster Hovhannes Katchaznouni's comments in a speech and books on this topic by Kapriel Serope Papazian and Guenter Lewy


    The liberal use of the term "genocide" has stirred numerous controversies and debates. Despite an international law definition, the word has been applied in some questionable instances. The deliberate murder of more than a million Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge, some of whose victims are pictured here, was undoubtedly a horrific crime, but does it fit the definition of genocide?

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    23.1.13

    3388) Did the Armenian Genocide Inspire Hitler? - Turkey, Past and Future


    A number of clues point to the possibility that Hitler's "final solution" was inspired by the Turkish massacre of its Armenian population in 1915. His infamous 1939 question, "Who speaks today of the extermination of the Armenians?" although hotly debated concerning its authenticity, is only one indication leading to that conclusion.

    Related Posts



    It is well known by genocide scholars that in 1939 Adolf Hitler urged his generals to exterminate members of the Polish race.[1] "Who speaks today of the extermination of the Armenians?" Hitler asked, just a week before the September 1, 1939 invasion of Poland.[2] However, while it is generally agreed that Hitler was well aware of the Armenian genocide,[3] some genocide scholars and historians of the Ottoman Empire have questioned whether he actually made the above statement or even intended to exterminate portions of the "Polish race."[4] . . .

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    22.1.13

    3387) Comments on -Turkish 'Falsifiers' & Armenian 'Deceivers': Historiography & the Armenian Massacres by Gwynne Dyer -

    Counter Comments

    Re: Gwynne Dyer "Turkish 'Falsifiers' and Armenian 'Deceivers': Historiography and the Armenian Massacres" in Middle Eastern Studies, XII, 1976, pp. 99-107

    Gwynne Dyer
    Historian, military analyst and journalist, Ph.D. in Ottoman military history, The King’s College London.

    Gwynne Dyer is one of the few Western scholars to have done research in Ottoman military archives. Dyer has worked as a freelance journalist, columnist, broadcaster and lecturer on international affairs for more than 20 years, but he was originally trained as an historian. Born in Newfoundland, he received degrees from Canadian, American and British universities, finishing with a Ph.D. in Military and Middle Eastern History from the University of London. He served in three navies and held academic appointments at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and Oxford University before launching his twice-weekly column on international affairs, which is published by over 175 papers in some 45 countries.

    FOREWORD: I do not know why and how this 1976 article of Dyer, who wrote this article during the early years of his journalistic and “historian”(?) career , has been brought into internet circulation and gave me a chance to read it again.

    The above link refers to some sections of this essay with comments of the “phantom historian Holdwater” in 2005. I do not claim to be a scholar but a careful cross-checking reader and feel it is necessary to bring some “documented facts” to the attention of the readers. I prefer to leave the judgment to them.

    Mr. Dyer wanted to discuss this matter may be after the start of ASALA terrorists killings in USA in 1973. Regardless of how neutral and unbiased Mr. Dyer had tried to be, (looking at his sources and considering many non-Turkish documents which have surfaced more recently) any one with knowledge can easily see that he could use no other refuting documents but also he treated “novels-memories-story books” as if they were the dependable evidences of the actual events.

    One can immediately see that Dyer depended heavily on Armenian novelists and Richard Hovannisian who only told half of what was available. Selahi Sonyel, a dependable scholar who later became one of the most respected sources in the subject. But the point is that all these were based only on the documents which were available until around the 1990s!
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    10.7.12

    3361) The Power of Words -Armenian Weekly April 2012 Magazine



  • The Power Of Words

  • ARTS AND LITERATURE
    • Taboos, Tattoos, and Trauma: Making ‘Grandma’s Tattoos’ By Suzanne Khardalian
    • The Seed that Finally Took Root: The Kernel that Led to ‘The Sandcastle Girls’ By Chris Bohjalian
    • The Making of ‘Deported/a dream play’ —By Joyce Van Dyke

    PERSPECTIVES
    • Turkey Has Acknowledged the Armenian Genocide By Ugur Ümit Üngör
    • Post-Denial Denial By Henry C. Theriault
    • Tlön, Turkey, and the Armenian Genocide By Marc Mamigonian
    • Kings of Spades: Fantasies of Sovereignty in a Pathology Plot By Burcu Gursel
    • A Tale of Two Monuments: An Extremely Belated Anatomy of Two Radically Understudied Makings and One Unmaking By Ayda Erbal
    • Does the French Law Penalizing Genocide Denial Restrict Free Speech? By Harut Sassounian

    FOR THE RECORD
    • Virtuous Victims: Imagining Armenians in the West By Matthias Bjørnlund
    • Armenian Representation in Turkey? By Talin Suciyan
    • Syrian-Armenian Memory and the Refugee Issue in Syria under the French Mandate (1921–46) By Seda Altug
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    5.6.12

    3359) Mamigonian: Tlön, Turkey, and the Armenian Genocide



  • Tlön, Turkey, and the Armenian Genocide By Marc Mamigonian, Armenian Weekly, June 4, 2012

  • Comments
    By Sukru Server Aya



  • Tlön, Turkey, and the Armenian Genocide By Marc Mamigonian, Armenian Weekly, June 4, 2012

    Mainstream journalism and scholarship undertake the work—sometimes knowingly, sometimes unknowingly—of constructing Turkey’s Tlön.

    In the past decade, even as a few scholars from Turkey and Turkish citizens have begun to talk and write more openly about their history, including the Armenian Genocide, Ankara, perhaps concerned that it is losing the battle to erase and rewrite history, or, on the contrary, perhaps because it believes that victory is achievable, has raised its efforts to a new level. This article examines some of the ways Turkey creates and disseminates its perversion of history and how its narrative is (unknowingly or knowingly) passed along to mostly uninformed readers, with the end result of skewing the discussion towards a narrative acceptable to Turkey. A comprehensive history and analysis is well beyond the scope of this article and, in fact, calls for a book-length study.

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    17.5.12

    3355) The Filiations of Taner Akcam / Some Examples Of The Method Used By Taner Akcam


  • The Filiations of Taner Akcam by Attala AKIN

  • Some Examples Of The Method Used By Taner Akcam by Maxime Gauin

  • Comments By Sukru Aya & League of Nations Sourced – REPLY on HOLOCAUST Charges


  • Unlike his great-grand-son Taner, Communist leader of 70 years, the Armenian Agop does not believe in Marxism or communism ...

    We (Turkey Info News - www.turquie-news.com) invite you to discover the translation of an article that illuminates much about the profile of Taner Akcam. True "historian mercenary", Taner Akcam is presented by Armenian fanatics as
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    8.5.12

    3351) Did The Ottoman Government Practice ‘Ethnic Cleansing’ Against Armenians?

    Maxime GAUIN © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com


    Updated 11 May 2012

    Maxime Gauin
    JTW Columnist,
    7 May 2012

    This column is a reaction to one of Mustafa Akyol’s in Hürriyet Daily News, published on April 25, 2012.

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/armenian-ethnic-cleansing-as-de-islamization.aspx?pageID=449&nID=19180&NewsCatID=411

    There is absolutely nothing personal, or even ideological, in this response; I want only to respond to these precise points, as a historian working on the Armenian question.

    Mr. Akyol alleges that “the nationalist Young Turk government decided to expel almost all Armenians to Syria” and that “The ‘Turkism’ of the Young Turks, Kaplan reminded, yearned for not a plural nation of many faiths and ethnicities, but an exclusive ‘Turkish homeland.’”
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    25.10.11

    3325) First Interview With K.M. Greg Sarkissian (President Of The Zoryan Institute) Since Hrant Dink




    Updated With The Counter Comments by Sukru Server Aya 29 Oct 2011
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    By Esra Elmas
    Agos, August 10-15, 2011

    1. Actually Hrant Dink did an interview with you in 2002. After 9 years, this will be the first after him, I guess. Let me start with the assassination of Hrant Dink. What do you think about the process in which, at the end, Hrant Dink was killed in 2007?

    The murder of Hrant Dink came as a shock to all of us at Zoryan. During his visit to the institute nine years ago, he
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    13.6.11

    3282) Scholarly Ethic vs. Politicized History

    Maxime GAUIN © This content Mirrored From  http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com
    by Maxime GAUIN
    13 June 2011

    The future of the Turkish-Armenian relations, with its various aspects depends largely of the confrontation of ethical and scholarly approaches of the past, present and future, against the political misuse of history for political and ideological ends.

    Speaking on “human rights”

    One of the favorite slogans of “Armenian genocide” claimants is that the “recognition” is an issue of “human rights”. It is a mistake to separate the bloody terrorism of ASALA and JCAG/ARA to the mainstream of the “Armenian genocide” allegations. Indeed, the JCAG/ARA were nothing but the terrorist branch of Armenian Revolutionary Federation, Armenian Diaspora’s main and most effective political party. This fact is established even by the single research carried out in ARF’s archives about the 1959-1998 years, Gaïdz Minassian’s Ph.D. thesis. Vicken Hovsepian, currently member of ARF’s World Bureau and supreme representative of this party in USA, was sentenced in 1984 for an attempt of bombing which, according to FBI’s estimations, could have killed between 2,000 and 3,000 persons. Mourad Topalian, president of the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA, political branch of ARF in USA) was sentenced in 2001 to 37 months of jail for illegal storing of war weapons and explosives, linked to terrorist activities. In France, Jean-Marc Toranian, co-chairman of the Coordination Council of France’s Armenian Associations, was spokesman of ASALA from 1976 to 1983, and covered in the invectives the French criminal tribunal which sentenced, in 1985, three ASALA terrorists for the Orly bombing of July 15, 1983
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    Several of the most prominent supporters of “Armenian genocide” allegation were witnesses for defense of several Armenian terrorists during the trials of 1981-1984 period, including Richard G. Hovannisian and Gerard Libaridian in USA, and Jean-Marie Carzou (Zouloumian), Gérard Chaliand and Yves Ternon in France.

    Many Armenian sources document the close collaboration between the ARF and Nazis; and also the similarly close cooperation of the two other diasporic Armenian parties (Hunchak and Ramkavar) with Stalin’s USSR. The newspaper of Ramkavar in France was even banned by the French government during the Cold War, because of his inflammatory support to USSR.

    In addition, the hard-liners of Armenian Diaspora supported fully the invasion of Western Azerbaijan (1991-1994), and the ethnic cleansing against Turkic Azeris. The massacre of Khodjaly is just the best known and the most barbarian act of this campaign. Armenian nationalists deny crudely the war crimes of the Armenian army in 1991-1994, but call “deniers” or “denialists” those who, without questioning the sufferings of displaced Armenian Ottomans, reject the “genocide” label.

    Production and use of forgeries

    It is still frequent in Armenian nationalist historiography to refer to notorious forgeries, like the “Ten Commandments,” or even Andonian’s “documents” and Mevlanzade Rifat’s book.

    Other falsifications are more recent and, in a sense, more dangerous, because they are less known as falsifications. For instance, Taner Akçam argues that the telegram dispatched by Talat Pasha to Ankara’s province on August 29, 1915, is a remarkable evidence that “the policies adopted against the Armenians were aiming at their annihilation”. Mr. Akçam quotes only the two first sentences of this text: “The Armenian issue pertaining to the Eastern Provinces has been resolved. Therefore, there is no need to harm the reputation of our nation and government by conducting unnecessary cruelties.” (Ermeni Meselesi Hallolunmuştur: Osmanlı Belgelerine Göre Savaş Yıllarında Ermenilere Yönelik Politikalar, İstanbul: İletişim Yayınları, 2008, p. 182.) The beginning is extracted from the context and it distorts the meanings of the full text. Reading the rest of the document is enlightening:

    “Particularly the recent attack conducted on the Armenians at a place close to Ankara has caused great regret of the Ministry, considering its way of occurring, the obvious incompetence of the officials charged with supervising the transfer of Armenians, and audacity on part of the gendarmes and the local people who acted on their bestial instincts to rape and rob the Armenians. The transfer of Armenians, which is desired to be carried out in an orderly and prudent manner, should henceforth never be left to the individuals having fanatical feelings of enmity, and that the Armenians, whether or not they are subject to relocation, will be definitely protected against any assault and attack. At the places where such a protection could not be provided, the transfer of Armenians should be postponed. From now on, all of the officials in charge shall be held responsible with respect to their ranks for any attack, which may occur and shall be brought before the military courts. It is necessary to give very strict orders to the relevant personnel in this regard.” (Hikmet Özdemir and Yusuf Sarınay, “Turkish-Armenian Conflict Documents”, Ankara: TBMM, 2007, p. 235.)

    No one supporter of “Armenian genocide” charges attempted to explain why the CUP government, and more especially Talat Pasha, punished severely many perpetrators of atrocities against Armenian deportees in 1915-1916, both among Ottoman bureaucracy and civilians. In Spring of 1916 only, 1673 persons were judged; and 67 of them were sentenced to death and hanged.

    A difficult and needed separation

    There are Armenian and pro-Armenian scholars, like Hilmar Kaiser and Garabet Moumjian, who support the “genocide” charge without supporting terrorism and using forgeries; and they accept debate; however unfortunately, few other scholars are like them.

    Donald Bloxham presented a narrative of “genocide” allegation less strident and more interesting than the mainstream, but did not notice that he used a crude forgery in publishing in his book: a fake photograph — maybe inadvertently — supposed to represent an Ottoman civil servant. Mr. Bloxham made deserved and rational critics against some Vahakn Dadrian’s false allegations, but when he comes to the central point of his topic (genocide or not), Mr. Bloxham does not refrain to refer to the less than convincing arguments of Mr. Dadrian (for instance: “The Great Game of Genocide”, Oxford-New York: Oxford University Press, 2005, p. 253, n. 74, and p. 255, n. 207, 209, 210).

    It is hoped that the accumulation of revelations about forgeries used to support “Armenian genocide” allegations will incite some to be more prudent and more cautious, and to control their questionable presuppositions.

    Anyway, the needed reconciliation between Turks and Armenians makes it necessary the isolation of fanatics pursuing a political, anti-Turkish agenda. Such organizations and individuals are actual enemies of both Turkish and Armenian Republics, as well as enemies of free and objective scholar research and of free speech. They opposed violently the Turkish-Armenian Vienna’s platform as well as the Turkish-Armenian Protocols signed in 2009, because they fear historical truth and enduring peace. As propaganda which is disguised in historical studies jeopardizes the knowledge of the past, the strident political activism jeopardizes the positive actions which Armenian and Turkish people could may carry out together in the following years.

    Emotional and distorted interpretations of the past are the worst enemies of the peace for future.


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    10.6.11

    3277) ‘Hai Tahd’: New Priorities for A New Agenda By Michael Mensoian And Counter Comments by Sukru Aya

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    Genocide Recognition: Continuing a Flawed Political Strategy
    By Michael Mensoian


    Michael Mensoian, J.D./Ph.D, is professor emeritus in Middle East and political geography at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, and a retired major in the U.S. army. He writes regularly for the Armenian Weekly.

    Part I
    I want to believe that every Armenian hopes for the day when the Turkish leadership acknowledges that the uprooting and murder of some 1.5 million Armenians was a genocide. (1)

    Good men and women, highly motivated and dedicated to Hai Tahd (Armenian Cause) and the best interests of the Armenian nation are working to achieve this objective. However, on Dec. 22 the latest fiasco in this annual drama occurred when the House democrat leadership in which our good men and women had placed their trust decided to fool the Armenian American community once again. (2) Specifically, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrat Leadership simply decided, without warning, to pull the rug out from under the feet of the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) ostensibly because a favorable vote for passage of H.Res.252 (Armenian Genocide Resolution) was not likely. Behind the door machinations by the Turkish lobby aided by President Obama’s refusal to act on his stated beliefs on the genocide are the usual suspects. Maybe this is the moment when the ARF/ANCA finally realizes that while this annual pilgrimage to Capitol Hill may capture the emotional support of the Armenian community, it represents an inefficient and ineffective use of resources
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    It was interesting to compare the response by the ANCA with the obsequiousness of the Armenian Assembly. Rightfully so, the ANCA conveyed the anger and disappointment of the Armenian American community, whereas the Armenian Assembly issued an immediate press release praising Pelosi and her leadership team for providing invaluable assistance and guidance during the process. The ANCA had every reason to believe that the vote would have been taken under the most favorable circumstances possible. An unconfirmed report attributed to the Assembly accepted Pelosi’s judgment that the vote would not favor passage. (3)

    If genocide recognition encompassed all that was represented by Hai Tahd, there would be no cause for concern. Or if genocide recognition could solve the problems facing the Armenian nation, there still would be no cause for concern. Unfortunately neither is so. The Turkish leaders in Ankara once again must be savoring their victory and it must cause thinking Armenians in the homeland (Armenia, Artsakh, and Javakhk) and the diaspora to question how priorities are being established and resources are being allocated. (4) Difficult as it may be to accept, while passage of a genocide recognition resolution is important, it is not so important as to neglect other issues that have immediacy and are of greater importance to the future viability of the Armenian nation (see “Genocide Recognition: A Misguided Political Strategy,” the Armenian Weekly, Oct. 17, 2009).

    For a moment consider what effect passage of the non-binding H.Res.252 could possibly have. Would it cause the Turkish leadership to recant and finally confess to the world and its own citizens, after a 90-year policy of denial, that a genocide did occur? (5) Would the average Turkish citizen willingly accept the moral, economic, and political burden for the crimes some ancestors several generations removed may have committed? Would Turkey relent and open its border with Armenia? Would it result in Artsakh being recognized as an independent political entity? Would Georgia cease its discriminatory policies against the Armenians of Javakhk? Other questions could be asked, but the answers would all be a resounding no. (6)

    Furthermore, passage of a resolution would not cause Turkey to implode for the benefit of Armenians and Hai Tahd. Genocide recognition by some two dozen foreign governments has not lessened Turkey’s stature in the world. Presently it holds one of the rotating seats on the UN Security Council. Having said that, should a resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide pass, it would only serve to harden the resistance of the Turkish leadership and the average Turkish citizen. (7) And why not, when President Obama fails to honor his campaign rhetoric recognizing the Armenian Genocide? The president’s need to cajole Ankara by equating its interests and values with those of the United States or elevating Turkey’s contribution as more important than ever should be more than sufficient reason for the ARF/ANCA to reassess its strategy. In addition, many Armenians delude themselves by misreading what Turkish academics and others mean when they say that the Turkish people must face their past. Facing their past is a purely psycho-moral exercise that is unrelated to the political and economic ramifications that genocide recognition has for the Armenian people. (8)

    Granted, a resolution recognizing the genocide would be an appropriate and significant moral and psychological victory for Armenians. It would go a long way in assuaging the emotional scars that Armenians have borne these many years, not only for the loss of ancestors they never had the opportunity to know, but for the generations forever lost to the Armenian nation. (9) However, now is the time to realize that following the same flawed strategy year after year will invariably yield the same result.

    Valuable resources in political capital, money, individual commitment, and moral support from the Armenian community are being diverted from significantly more important objectives facing the Armenian nation. We need to look no further than Artsakh where some 7,000 of our people sacrificed their lives to liberate these historic Armenian lands. (10) They are no less our martyrs than those whose lives were taken during the genocide.

    Myopia is a dangerous political affliction. It has allowed genocide recognition to be raised to the level of a cause celebre, an apparent moral obligation that is given precedence over every other issue. While genocide recognition may meet the legitimate expectations of the diasporan Armenians, the need to respond to issues whose solution will contribute to the viability and security interests of the Armenian nation are wanting. There is a failure to see the forest because of the trees. Theoretically, a genocide recognition strategy might be effective if a critical mass of countries (somewhere in the vicinity of 90 or 100 countries) not only supported the Armenian position, but also agreed to apply economic sanctions to pressure the Turkish leadership to finally accept responsibility. In the world of realpolitik this is an unrealistic expectation. (11)

    http://www.armenianweekly.com June 2,2011
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    Counter notes – Comments by Sukru Server Aya :

    1- I will believe the fantasies of the writer when he or some one can explain to me after reading: Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/10/2610-genocide-lies-need-no-archives.html - how is it possible to murder 1.5 millions out of 1.3 millions and still have a balance of 1.414.000 living Armenians on 31.12.1921. If you can answer this question, you must also convince that Turks killed 10.000 Armenians per day for 150 days to total to 1.5 millions, and that those bodies were buried in 150 stadium size graveyards dug by hand, but not even one mass grave has been ever found!

    2- Who is fooling whom? Cannot be that the diaspora pipe blowers are fooling the US Congress who are not even aware of their past resolutions in 1919, 1920 and 1922?

    3- The writer as an advocate of ANCA is carried away beyond logic, with his propagandist fantasies!

    4- I do not think that the Turkish leaders in Ankara, ever understood “what is going on and what is the gain of this game”, nor the reasons, such as why, when, how, what the truth and practical solutions are!

    5- “Genocide” is an unproven serious crime, but has no legal or logical dependency by any measures (other than slanders and propaganda) and hence it cannot be used as a “verdict or conviction” unless it is produced by authorized legal court.

    6- Does Armenia respect the borders drawn by four treaties or think to revoke the excessive claims in her constitution? How can you come with so many endless claims against your neighbors and expose your continuous hostilities at the same time expecting your neighbors to give in to all these claims, just because you “use the leverage of super powers”?

    7- Yes!

    8- As a honest man with many friends of Armenians ethnicity in the past and present I am facing my past with three books and over 300 articles all posted in this blog site. I am still waiting for some one who can “show that my verbatim excerpts are untrue” and that my evidences are untrue, but his words or palavers are true!

    9- Victimization scenes by ballast literature!

    10- Sure, when “you grab lands, massacre thousands and exile nearly one million Azeries from their homes with the support of Russians, your murders are “heroes and martyrs” and the innocent victims are presented by you as “criminals” who have stolen your “biblical rights”!

    11- Oh My GOD, finally ONE WORD of LOGIC amidst so much trash thinking that readers are retarded ignorants!



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    Hai Tahd’: New Priorities for a New Agenda By: Michael Mensoian

    Part II
    Part I discussed the seven injustices that are represented by Hai Tahd. Part II will suggest new priorities for a new agenda for the ARF and the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) in the United States. The bedrock of Hai Tahd is the genocide. No one can dispute that statement.(1) However, the level of priority and resources that are dedicated to it can and should be disputed. The latest disappointment in failing to obtain Congressional approval of a genocide recognition resolution, as well as President Obama’s obstinate refusal to use the word genocide in his April 24th message, would suggest that something is amiss. (2)

    The something amiss is having elevated genocide recognition as the sine qua non of Hai Tahd. No one questions that passage of a favorable resolution by the United States Congress or any national legislature is an important moral victory. However, there is a significant distinction between legislatures simply recognizing the Ottoman-Turkish government’s systematic murder of the Armenian people as genocide (3), and recognizing the Ottoman-Turkish government’s systematic murder of the Armenian people as genocide and Turkey’s legal and moral obligation for reparation and restitution. (4).

    More immediate and pressing issues exist that must be confronted. This does not refer to increasing economic, military, or humanitarian aid to Armenia or to Karabagh by a few million dollars annually.(5) This amount, given the billions of dollars in foreign aid routinely budgeted by Congress, is the result of intense lobbying by the ANCA supported by the Congressional Armenian Caucus duly reported in press releases each year. Are we being overly critical if we question our effectiveness? (6)

    Mission one of a new agenda
    The ARF in the United States and the ANCA occupy a unique position within the organizational and geographic framework of Armenians worldwide. The one million-plus Armenians in the United States represent the second largest concentration of Armenians in the diaspora after Russia.(7) In terms of per capita income, education, and professional achievement, they represent an important segment of the Armenian demographic universe. Unfortunately a high percentage of these Armenians are either ambivalent with respect to Armenian issues or completely detached from the Armenian community. (8)

    An important mission that the ARF and the ANCA can undertake is to develop programs that seek to energize targeted segments of this population. This requires something more than press releases, emails, mailings, and events that appeal primarily to the very small percentage of the population continually relied upon for support. That there is a need for intensive outreach programs is obvious. (9)

    Observation one: Our fund raising results are less than stellar. Is it beyond belief that we should be able to raise at least $5 million annually? People give when they accept the urgency of the cause. They give when they can accept how the solicited funds will be used. And they give based on the results achieved or effectiveness. (10)

    Observation two: We attract very few “new” Armenians from this one million-plus universe to our various events whether at the local, regional, or national levels. More telling has been our limited success in connecting with that segment of the population from their late 20's to mid-40's who identify themselves as “young professionals!” A recent panel discussion co-sponsored by the AGBU Young Professionals and the ARF “Sardarabad” Gomideh in Watertown, Mass., was an excellent beginning bringing these two groups together for the first time. Few of these young adults knew what the ARF was about. (11). Do we consider it important to inform and educate our people as to our philosophy, our purpose, and our methods in confronting the issues facing the Armenian nation both internationally and domestically? Is it remotely possible that most Armenian Americans are not cognizant of these problems? (12))

    Observation three: Have we noted the lack of interest by our youth in becoming involved? Or the number of AYF Juniors, AYF Seniors, and Homenetmen members who opt at some later time in life to join the ARF Gomidehs or the Armenian Relief Society (ARS) chapters? Is it possible that we lack a compelling message? Or that we do not have a relevant one? Today is a far different world for our young people than, say, 20 years ago. Have we as an organization accommodated these changes? The strength of the ARF comes from the support derived from our people, and that support is directly related to their understanding and acceptance of the ARF. (13)

    A question of revolutionary fervor
    Could it be that we have lost the revolutionary fervor that was the hallmark of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation? (14) Historically we were a party of action and a party of ideas and ideals. It was never a question of whether we could or could not. We believed that we could right the wrongs that the nation had suffered. We believed that we could protect the interests of the nation. We believed that we could create a system of justice and equality for the Armenian worker and his family. It was the faith we had in ourselves individually and collectively that fueled the passion to serve and to protect the interests of our people. The ARF had a vision to fulfill, a vision that literally saved the survivors of the genocide from oblivion in the diaspora. I do not believe that same vision or passion currently exists. (15)

    Mission two of a new agenda Our people must understand exactly what Hai Tahd represents and the role the ARF has in protecting those interests. The ARF in the United States has an opportunity to influence the policies and objectives ultimately adopted at the highest level of leadership. We must strive to transform the ARF in the United States into a dynamic, cohesive political organization capable of influencing the leadership because of our successes in outreach programs, fundraising, and in expanding our base of support. Continually having our admirable efforts at genocide recognition rejected does not inspire confidence in our operation. Not only are Artsakh and Javakhk of greater concern, but their favorable resolution will have an immediate and positive impact on the Armenian nation, Hai Tahd, and the ARF. (16)

    Mission three of a new agenda

    To define the Karabagh issue. What is the geographic relationship of Karabagh to Artsakh, or why are the Madrid Principles that are proposed as the basis for a negotiated settlement biased against Karabagh’s interests? Have we done all we can to acquaint our population in the United States with the history of this region and the inequities our people suffered during the 70 years under the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan? (17)

    We have allowed Turkey and Azerbaijan to frame the issue as Armenian irredentism. Artsakh gainingde jure independence (at the very least, not losing its present de facto independent status) is one of several immediate issues facing the Armenian nation and the ARF. Dashnaks were members of the Karabagh government that declared independence and the ARF was an active participant in Karabagh’s war for independence. The reversion of Artsakh to Azeri control would be a serious defeat for Armenia and the ARF. If Artsakh is beyond saving, what of the remaining injustices represented byHai Tahd? The various interests that represent American society—business leaders, educators, journalists, advocacy groups, and the Congressional Armenian Caucus, to name but a few—must be made aware of all aspects of the Karabagh issue if success is to be ours. (18)

    Mission four of a new agenda
    To monitor and publicize the deplorable situation of the Javakhk Armenians and to seek assistance not only to alleviate their condition, but to support their legitimate demands as citizens of Georgia. Again, the plight of the Javakhkahayer (Javakhk Armenians) is not well known within the Armenian community. Conflicting reports define the situation in terms that benefit Georgia. An International Crisis Group briefing dated May 23, 2011 states: “Although Tbilisi has significantly invested in infrastructure and acquiesced to the use of the Armenian language in schools and public administration Javakheti still faces serious problems.”

    A Yerkir Union of NGO’s for Repatriation and Settlement press release dated April 18, 2011 challenges the U.S. State Department’s 2010 Human Rights Report on Georgia, claiming that “…the facts of violation of the rights of the Armenians of Javakheti have been presented in an incomplete and distorted manner.” The areas that the Yerkir Union press release noted cover a range of economic, political, and cultural violations that are more serious than those mentioned in the 2010 report on Georgia or in the International Crisis Group Briefing. If this policy of forced acculturation, population resettlement, and economic and political marginalization continues, historic Armenian Javakhk will be irretrievably lost within several generations. (19)

    Genocide recognition within context of ‘Hai Tahd’
    The demand that Turkey should, as the successor state to the Ottoman-Turkish Empire, recognize its responsibility for the Armenian Genocide must continue. (20) However this demand may be articulated in the future, it should be presented within the framework of Hai Tahd, not as an isolated injustice that can be resolved by passage of a Congressional resolution recognizing the murder of 1.5 million Armenian men, women, and children as genocide. (21) The ARF and the ANCA should set their agendas to undertake those missions that have greatest urgency and significance to Hai Tahd and the nation.

    The historic role of the ARF
    The ARF is the principal counterweight to the government of the Republic of Armenia. Whether in Armenia or in the diaspora, it fulfills the role of the loyal opposition. During the century from its inception in 1890 to the founding of the second independent Republic of Armenia in 1991, the ARF ably and singularly represented the interests of the Armenian people. (22) Whatever shortcomings or failures it may have experienced, the dedication, vision, and accomplishments of the ARF during this period cannot be legitimately challenged. (23)The ARF and the ANCA has served its people with distinction, but both entities should take the opportunity to set agendas that not only address the immediate issues confronting our nation, but seek to expand its influence well beyond its traditional base of support. (24)

    http://www.armenianweekly.com June 8,2011
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    Notes and counter comments by Sukru Server Aya:

    1- If there were “no dispute on the genocide statement”, why would you need to reaffirm “yourself”! Why are you afraid of questioning? Billions of people believe in hell and paradise, but is this enough for this being the “intelligent truth”?

    2- Wouldn’t you like to remind President Obama and House speakers to first have a look into the following documents?

    Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2010/08/3135-congress-report-266-american.html
    Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2010/08/3131-near-east-relief-31-dec-1921.html

    3- Systematic murders? By whom? : Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2010/07/3116-niles-and-sutherland-report.html

    4- Crime and punishment is not hereditary. Apparently the writer is not aware even of the settlement between USA and Turkey! See: Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2010/08/3132-free-consolation-versus-frail.html

    5- Economic and military aid to Armenia? See above two reports under note (2). Huge RELIEF AIDS to Armenia included even three airplanes! Were they used for “ambulance purposes”? Grabbing Karabagh and 20% of Azerbaijan territory apparently was not sufficient! You need more to grab from Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey in case Russia does not help!

    6- From Leslie A. Davis’ book “The slaughterhouse Province”, p.183: “…lying and trickery and inordinate love of money…Every trick and devices are resorted by those who are not in need as well as by those in need”!

    7- Concentration of Armenians is less than one million and only about one third of them accepted to be called “Armenian”.

    8- Attachment to community costs money and escalating obligations or liabilities to ARF solidaritarian measures.

    9- It is still a mystery from day one, if ARF (ANCA) needed funds to reach certain targets, or targets had to be fabricated to justify collection of “un-audited funds”. Watch: Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2007/08/1859-video-nbc-special-armenian.html and hear Mourat Topalian speaking of “receipt copies” for money collected to send terrorists to Lebanon for training as ASALA or Justice Commandos!

    10- How come? ANCA asks for on-line donation practically with every letter they send out!

    11- So, you still market ARF principles which brought nothing but calamities to the “well to do Armenians, who were the cream of the Ottoman society” by dragging them into revolutionary dreams by taking their money!

    12- Good! So they start to realize that U.S. citizenship counts first in relation to ethnicity!

    13- Is that warming state policies or putting a stick in the bee hornet to drag the community into new adventures?

    14- “Revolutionary Fervor”? In this era of globalization? Revolt against whom, why? What a mental sickness!

    15- ARF saved no survivors except they arranged immigration of some 22.000 Armenians in the Nazi Army to be accepted in USA as “displaced persons” of course if they paid the fee! See “Armenian Affairs”, 1949, 50.Vol.1, No.1, Roy Carson!

    16- Empty ballast words to boost morale and inject new adventures by brainwashing youn generation!

    17- Why do you advocate against the UN Resolutions? You have grabbed (by bribing Russia with military bases) Karabagh and also some 20% of the Azeri land. Thousands were murdered by ARF leaders some now heading the Armenian Republic and about a million have been thrown out of their houses still living in provisional camps!

    18- Wow! Still grabbing land by force for more and praising ARF banditry which brought nothing but disasters!

    19- Human Rights, for Armenians only? How many Jews are left (a few hundreds) in Armenia? How many Moslems are left in Armenia (NONE) nowadays? In 1850s, 70% of the population of present Armenia was Muslims!

    20- Above referred documents prove the opposite.

    21- Wow! I invite the writer and readers to refer to my essay: Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/10/2610-genocide-lies-need-no-archives.html and give a logical explanation as regards “how is it possible to kill 1.5 millions out of a total of 1.3 millions and have a balance of 1.414.000? Who is lying? Which document of mine is untrue?

    22- Whose interests? Armenian people or the ARF leaders’?

    23- Why it cannot be challenged? May be too much trash hidden piled under the carpet? Even Medicare fraud must be investigated!

    24- ARF and ANCA have always cared for their own income and interests and not the community’s!

    Note: My book : Armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/04/2429-new-e-book-genocide-of-truth-based.html has been on the internet since 2008 free for loading or reprints! I am still waiting for any comment to refute any of my sources!

    Sukru S. Aya, Istanbul, June 10, 2011

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    Further Comments By (78.187.137.120) Ankara, Turkey

    The modern (!) world’s predominant philosophy depends on this understanding: ‘I have the right of writing the history of the nations as they want, or as they do not want or as I myself like’ This philosophy is an insult to the historians and the nations themselves.

    If Turks committed a genocide which is the greatest crime of humanity, and if Turkey really avoids of facing its history, and if the Armenians and their supporters sincerely want Turkey to do it, then why do the Armenians persistently refuse Turkey’s suggestions to discuss these events together with historians from both sides and other countries?

    For example:

    “Our objective is to have the matter investigated by historians and experts. We are ready to accept the decision of the joint historical commission. We agree for different professionals from various countries to be involved” Abdullah Gul recently said. If historians committee project could be realized, issue of so called Armenian genocide will not be discussed by politicians but by historians. Furthermore, other than Turkish and Armenian historians, historians from third countries will also be included.

    The Turks who were eager for establishment of such an historical commission, were supported by the United Nations, European Parliament and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). http://www.tegenwicht.org/weblog_2006/67_armeens.... http://www.volkskrantblog.nl/bericht/77330, http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/93374... and was very happy.

    While Turkey was eager and very happy, the Armenians were exceedingly unwilling and very angry.

    http://www.keghart.com/content/dans-la-rue#english; http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/august_2004/history001.html


    In an interview with Armenian Reporter, Prof Richard Hovannisian from California University and the father of Raffi Hovannisian, the first Foreign Minister of Armenia, said: ‘It is very dangerous to establish such an historical commission…because according to 1948 United Nations’s Genocide Convention, a deliberate and planned massacre is mandatory. The Turks will accept that nearly 200-300 thousand Armenian died; but nobody can call them deliberate acts. In Turkish Archives the Turks have the telegrams sent from vilayets about the then Armenian upraisals and documents about the Armenians who fled from the Ottoman Army. So, the Turkish historians will accuse the Armenians and say that all these events were a reaction to what the Armenians did and were not deliberate’ http://www.kophaber.com/news_detail.php?id=4726

    One of the supporters of so called Armenian genocide resolutions in U.S. Congress, Adam Schiff said “A committee about history is a struggle for distracting the truth. Turkey cannot rewrite history in exchange for good relations with Armenia.”

    ANCA and other Armenian lobbying organizations stated that Armenia is forced to make dangerous concessions by Turkey and that Turkey’s moves towards establishing joint historians commission aims to call so called Armenian genocide into question and suspend its international recognition. ANCA’s aim is to provide recognition of so called Armenian genocide by U.S. Congress before establishment of a historians committee to discuss the events by keeping pressure on the Congress.

    Let us go to a few years ago:

    *In 2004, the Viennese Armenian-Turkish Platform (VAT) was founded to exchange documents about the 1915 events by Austrian, Turkish and Armenian historians. After receiving 100 Turkish documents, the Armenians abandoned the project refusing to continue to fulfill their commitments and afterwards the Armenian foreign minister announced that they did not want to discuss the 1915 events with historians.

    (I. Press Release 11.1.2005 Viennese Armenian-Turkish Platform – VAT
    The Viennese Armenian-Turkish Platform deeply regrets to announce that she will not carry through her starting initiative „The First Viennese Armenian-Turkish Round Table” (FVATR Vienna 2005) originally planned for spring 2005. The reason is that the Armenian partner has not provided us with the necessary confirmation as agreed in August 2004…….On the other hand, the Turkish partner accepted already to participate in the dialogue, in which each part was supposed to present 180 documents on the year 1915 showing their understanding of this delicate matter. http://www.turkishdigest.com/documents/VATpressrelase.pdf

    *Armenia refused the Turkish prime minister's and the Turkish Assembly's invitation announced on April 13, 2005 which suggested to establish a Joint Commission composed of historians from both sides and discuss the events which took place during the 1st World War.

    *And the Turkish prime minister repeated the same invitation on February 2008 , in Munich at the 44th Security Conference where the Armenian Minister of Foreign Affairs Mr. Oskanian also attended?


    In neither of these invitations was there any precondition, unlike it is claimed by the Armenians.

    ***Why did the Armenian historian Sarafyan, who accepted the invitation of the then chief of Turkish History Foundation, Halacoglu, for cooperation to investigate Harput events, abandon the project, after talking the Armenian diaspora?

    *The Ottoman and Turkish archives are open, unlike it is claimed by the diaspora. http://www.ankara.edu.tr/english/yazi.php?yad=36. http://www.tsk.mil.tr/ENGLISH/8_FRAGMENTS_FORM_HI...
    http://louisville.edu/a-s/history/turks/Documents... http://louisville.edu/a-s/history/turks/Documents... http://www.devletarsivleri.gov.tr/kitap/kitap.asp...

    Even, Armenian historian Ara Sarafian from Gomitas Institute and Hilmar Kaiser searched the Ottoman archives (www.sarigelinbelgeseli.com


    *In spite of this, why are the Armenian archives including the one in Zoryan Armenian Institute in Boston closed? Both Turkish government and Turkish History Foundation offered the Armenians to open these archives; but the directors of the Zoryan Institute replied that they did not have enough money to open the archives. Turkish government and Turkish History Foundation promised financial support.Why did the Armenians refuse this suggestion too? (Nüzhet Kandemir, http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/418517.asp).

    Note that Zoryan Institute has quite enough money to provide financial support for Taner Akçam who advocated the Armenian claims while working in Minnesota University until recently.

    Why have the Armenians always been terribly afraid of establishment of historical joint commissions?

    Is it not striking that Armenian historian Sarafian, the head of the London-based Gomidas Institute, said Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s offer to Armenia to establish a commission of historians to resolve the Armenian issue was positive, but Armenia was the wrong address. He also said that freedom of expression for historians in Armenia is limited and the genocide issue has become a political tool. http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/10426

    If a genocide had really occurred, why did Brian Ardouny of the Armenian Assembly of America announce ‘We don’t need to prove the genocide historically, because it has already been accepted politically’?

    Why did the chief of the Armenian Archives in Armenia tell that they were not interested in the archives, but all they are interested is the world’s public opinion?

    Or why have the Armenians not admitted to an international court yet?

    In your life, have you ever seen a criminal who persistently calls the victim to bring his evidences?

    And, have you ever seen a victim who passionately accuses somebody of committing crime and giving him great harm but strictly avoids of bringing his proofs before the referees or going to court, and tells that he need not prove that person’s guilt, because the community has already accepted him as guilty?

    In this situation would you not question the era you are living in? 5000 BC or 2000BC?

    What else should the Turks do to face their history?

    Is it Turkey/Turks or Armenia and those who support them who are terribly afraid of facing their history?


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