Some Armenian nationalists still eager to kill Turks by Gareth Jenkins 26 April 2011
News.Az interviews Gareth Jenkins, non-resident Turkey expert at the USA's Johns Hopkins University.
Barak Obama didn't use the 'genocide' in his annual message to Armenian community. Could it be some sort of satisfaction for Turkey?
No, I don't think so. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu has already accused Obama of being "one-sided" for using the phrase that Armenians use when they refer to the events of 1915. But privately I would imagine that the Turkish government is thankful that Obama didn't use the word "genocide", which he had promised to do when he was running for president.
What are the prospects of Turkish-Armenian reconciliation while Armenians try to get "genocide" recognized in the world?
Reconciliation is always difficult when history casts such a long shadow. Having said that, tensions over what happened in 1915 tend to peak around April each year and then subside; and the two countries came close to reconciliation in late 2009, even though Armenians around the world were pushing for recognition of the genocide at the time.
It is worth remembering that the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) dislikes the Young Turks who were in power in Istanbul in 1915; and one of whose members, Ataturk, went on to found the secular Turkish Republic in 1923. I am sure that many of them would be prepared to lay all the blame for what happened in 1915 on the Young Turks if that was all that stood in the way of normalizing relations with Armenia.
But ultimately what happened in the early 1990s, with the invasion and occupation of Nagorno Karabakh, is a much bigger obstacle to reconciliation than what happened in 1915. Put bluntly, Turkey has a lot more to lose from antagonizing Azerbaijan than it stands to gain from normalizing relations with Armenia. And I can't see a situation in which Azerbaijan would support Turkish reconciliation with Armenia unless it followed a resolution of Nagorno Karabakh.
Turkish embassies in Georgia and some other countries received threat message from ASALA (Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia) - If Turkey supports Azerbaijan in the event it attacks Armenia over the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, "then the list will be finished," said the message, in clear implication of the list of murdered Turkish diplomats. How serious is this terror threat?
I don't think ASALA presents anything like as big a threat as it did in the past. As far as I know, most of its network has been wound up. Having said that, the threat still needs to be taken seriously. Even if ASALA no longer poses such a threat, there is always a possibility of a small group of fanatics trying to stage a bombing or assassination.
The fact that so many Turkish diplomats were killed in the past - and that, even though the numbers are small, there are undoubtedly some fanatical Armenian nationalists who would still like to kill Turks - means that the Turkish authorities cannot afford to be complacent about such threatening messages.
Some people say that Turkish side is not active enough (as Armenians at least) in providing the world community the real facts about 1915 events. Do you agree with that and what should be done to change the situation?
Turkey has long been its own worst enemy when it comes to the events of the late Ottoman Empire. Its attempts to stifle debate and prosecute even Turks who disagree with the official version of history has made it look to the rest of the world as if it is trying to hide something. It has left it very, very late to get its message across.
The Armenian diaspora has been much more proactive and much more successful; not least in defining the issue to be debated, namely what happened to the Armenians in 1915-1916 rather than a more general examination of what happened in the late Ottoman Empire regardless of the religion or ethnicity of those who killed or were killed.
Are you sure that Turkey will maintain linkage between reconciliation with Armenia issue and the Karabakh problem?
The AKP was aware of the Nagorno Karabakh issue when it went to Switzerland in October 2009 to sign an agreement with Armenia. The reason it changed its mind and abandoned the reconciliation process with Armenia was not because it suddenly learned about Nagorno Karabakh and decided to take a moral stance but because it suddenly realized that Azerbaijan was going to react if it normalized relations with Armenia before the Nagorno Karabakh issue had been resolved.
So I think it is really Azerbaijan which is maintaining the linkage rather than Turkey. If there is ever a situation in which the AKP thinks it has more to gain from reconciliation with Armenia than it has to lose from antagonizing Azerbaijan, then I think it will drop all talk of a linkage with Nagorno Karabakh.
Turkey’s Foreign Ministry and National Intelligence Service, or MIT, are examining a threat message allegedly sent by the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia, or ASALA, which killed 34 Turkish diplomats in the 1970s and 1980s, according to diplomatic sources ...
The threat message was reportedly first received at the Turkish Embassy in Tbilisi, Georgia, which is responsible for handling Armenian issues since Turkey has no diplomatic mission in Yerevan. A number of other Turkish embassies have received similar messages, sources said.
If Turkey supports Azerbaijan in the event it attacks Armenia over the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, “then the list will be finished,” said the message, in clear implication of the list of murdered Turkish diplomats.
Various Turkish embassies throughout the world have asked their host countries to increase security measures. Several Turkish embassies operate in countries that have sizeable Armenian communities like France, the United States and Lebanon.
The Foreign Ministry and the MIT are analyzing the threat messages in view of developments in the Armenian-Azerbaijani dispute as well as Turkish-Armenian relations. Armenians are preparing for 2015, the 100th year of the tragic events that involved the killing of thousands of people in eastern Turkey as the Ottoman Empire collapsed.
“There is radicalization among Armenian youth, especially in the diaspora. Their frustration over failing to make their genocide claims internationally recognized might have led to some of them reviving ASALA,” said a Turkish official asking to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the subject.
Active from 1975 to 1986, ASALA claimed responsibility for about 200 attacks on Turkish diplomatic and non-diplomatic institutions and murdered 58 Turkish and non-Turkish people, 34 of whom were Turkish diplomats. ASALA was listed as a terrorist organization by the United States until the 1980s, but was taken off the list when the group disbanded.
April 21, 2011
BARÇIN YINANÇ, Hürriyet Daily News
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Comment by (188.8.131.528) Ankara, Turkey
23rd April 2011
This situation, once again displays the hypocrisy of Western mentality, morality and also justice by supporting Armenian claims and pursuing Turkish enmity policy.
It is really surprising to see that the memory of the world public is so weak to remember the murders of the Turkish diplomats, committed and supported by the Armenians: Did the Armenians not establish outlawed terrorist organizations ASALA, JCAG (Justice Commandos for Armenian Genocide) and ARA (Armenian Revolutionary Army) and did they not perform dozens of murders and hundreds of terrorist activities? Because of these Armenian terrorist organization’s activities, did 70 people not die (39 of whom being innocent Turkish diplomats); were 524 people not wounded; were 105 not pledged? Additionally did these organizations not perform 208 bombing activities during 1975-1986? Then, they passed on their trade to kill Turkish people to the PKK.
What did the American Armenians do when Armenian Yan?kyan, who murdered the Turkish diplomats Mehmet Baydar and Bahad?r Demir in Santa Barbara, California and surrendered the police? The Armenians gathered around the district and SALUTED the murderer!!
During the trial, bus load of Armenian children, aged 7-13, were transported from Los Angeles area, and when Mr. Yanikian was escorted to the room they rose in unison to greet a man who was their hero, just because he had murdered two innocent men.
Just at that time, Armenian-Americans quickly mobilized and formed a group called "American Friends of Armenian Martyrs" to raise funds for his defense and to use the court case as "an educational campaign to bring the story of Turkish genocide before the American and world attention" (Armenian Mirror-Spectator, March 24, 1973). Until his death almost a decade later, a few months after he was released from prison on the order of the then California governor, George Deukmejian, Yanikian continued to receive gifts and supportive letters from Armenian-Americans (ATAA, Armenian Atrocities and Terrorism, Washington, 1997; http://www.ataa.org/reference/topalian/VIS6_Berkoz_Affidavit.pdf).
The Armenian criminal of Orly Airport massacre, Karapetyan, a member of ASALA, who was imprisoned for 18 years then set free by France, returned to Armenia in May 2001, he was welcomed by the then Armenian prime minister A.Margaryan, the Armenian folk and journalists who applauded him as if he were a national hero. A. Margaryan told that he appreciated this hero’s service for his country. Armenian Yerivan municipality provided work and house for the MURDERER 1179 (www.prima-news.ru/news/articles/2001/9/13/15705.html)
On 28 January 1982, Turkey’s Los Angeles Consul General Kemal Arikan was killed by the Armenian Dashnak militant Hampig Sassounian, who was sentenced to life imprisonment. Sassounian's father stated on public television, "I am glad that a Turk was killed, but my son did not do it."
A campaign to provide funds for Sassounian's defense raised $250,000 in small donations from Armenian-Americans throughout the United States. (Michael M. Gunter, "Pursuing the Just Cause of Their People": A Study of Contemporary Armenian Terrorism, Wesport-New York, Greenwood Press, 1986, p. 74.)
After Hampig Sassounian was found guilty of murdering the Turkish Consul in Los Angeles in 1982... Bishop Yeprem Tabakian, the prelate of the Western Prelacy of the Armenian Apostolic Church, stated: "Hampig's conviction is an indictment directed against all Armenians." Archbishop Vatche Hovsepian, the primate of the Western Diocese of the Armenian Church, added: "I am truly shocked about the verdict
* Levon Marashlian, of the Glendale College of Armenian history and culture, said Armenian terrorists are "patriots who have been waiting for 70 years." An Armenian student of Dr. Dennis Papazian, professor of history and the University of Michigan in Dearborn, was quoted as saying: "In a way, I'm kind of proud of the terrorists." (Gunter, "Pursuing the Just Cause of Their People:" A Study of Contemporary Armenian Terrorism, pp. 99-100).
*Since 1984, ARF commemorate every year the suicide-attack against the Turkish embassy in Lisbonne (25 July 1983), and describe the five terrorists as "heroes" (Gaïdz Minassian, Guerre et terrorisme arméniens, Paris, PUF, 2002; http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/terror-case-study.htm).
*A monument of Tehleryan, the murderer of Talat Pasha was erected in Yerivan in 2006 (Milliyet March 17,2006 and Agos March 24, 2006; http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/pics/tehlirian-monument.JPG).
*Mourad Topalian, ex-leader of Armenian National Committee of America was sentenced to 36 months in prison for his complicity in bombing the Turkish mission at the United Nations. In spite of this, he was not labeled a terrorist by Armenian Americans.
Murad Topalian, former president of the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) was sentenced to 37 months of jail for storing of weapons and explosives, linked to a terrorist group. In France, Ara Toranian, president of the Coordination Committee of French Armenian Association from 2003 to 2007, and still currently the most prominent character of Armenian community of France, was the sopkesman of the terrorist group ASALA, from 1976 to 1983, then of a dissident group, ASALA-RM, from 1983 to its destruction by French police, in 1985.
I call every human and every official of foreign governments, European and American JUSTICE to ask themselves if they ever did their duty to react Armenian terrorism and violence?
And also ask if the world public did its duty to give evidence-based responses to the massacres inflicted upon Turks/Muslims by the Armenians in Anatolia in the 1st World War (ATAA, Armenian Atrocities and Terrorism, Washington, 1997, p. 28, available: http://karabakh-doc.azerall.info/ru/armyanstvo/arm12eng.htm ), which started long before the Armenian deportation and to aforementioned Armenian terrorism, so as not to let genocides repeat themselves.
The answers are two big ‘NO’s.
And I call the public opinion to pay attention to the courage of the Armenians to perform new Turkish massacres during their invasion of the Azerbaijani territory in 1992: One woman’s fingers were plucked and two men’s skins were flayed. (The Economist March 7, 1992, p.48), some were burned, some of the bodies were destroyed (New Republic Vol 206, No 14, April 6, 1992, p.11); more than 1000 Azarbaijani Turks were massacred (‘Faces of Massacre’ Newsweek, March 16, 1992; ‘Massacre by Armenians Being Reported’. The New York Times, March 3, 1992)].
Here are other examples showing that the Armenians have adopted the language of violence as a life style:
The Armenians committed sabotage upon the house of American historian Prof Stanford J Shaw just because he declared that Armenian genocide did not occur in 1977 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/16/armenian-crime-amnesia/
*In the lecture of Richard G Hovannisian, held in Florida Atlantic University, on April 2, 2008, one Armenian woman told that the Armenians should have killed more Turkish diplomats!
Turkish prime minister, Assembly several times suggested Armenia to discuss these events together with historians from both sides and even historians from other countries. Armenia persistently refused. By making the parliaments pressure to pass genocide resolutions, Armenia aims to bypass historical realities and wants to escape from facing with its own history unlike Turkey.
When Hrant Dink was murdered, Turkish people, president, all members of goverment, bureaucrats from all levels, journalists sincerely mourned and condemned the murderer.
Millions of Turkish citizens gathered in his funeral ceremony and shouted as ‘we are all Armenian’ with tears. Including the annual Press Freedom Award of Turkish Journalist Association, Hrant Dink was awarded with many prizes, after his death.
Additionally, 60 000 illegal Armenian immigrant workers who are Armenian citizens are working throughout Turkey, at present. If Turkey and Turks also adopted the language of violence, how could these Armenians go on working in this country?
Therefore, people, countries and journalists who support Armenia in its policy, foster and approve violence which had become Armenian national language, instead of supporting dialogue and peace for the world.